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In the far reaches of
Northwestern India and Pakistan

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on the high plateaus surrounded
by mountains and rivers

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a rich tapestry of community
and culture

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have co-existed for centuries.

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Once one country, they are now
neighbours separated by a border.

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I'm Levison Wood

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and this is Ash Bhardwaj.

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We're explorers
and life-long friends

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who have travelled
to the far corners of the globe

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from Sudan to the Himalayas.

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We are on a 2,500 kilometre
adventure.

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Starting our journey

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from the border villages
in Northwestern Ladakh.

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Oh, yeah.

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We'll use the Line of Control
as our roadmap,

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heading south through one of the
coldest inhabited places on Earth.

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It's absolutely freezing up here.

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Travelling through the stunning
valleys of Kashmir.

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It's almost like
the Shangri-La of India.

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And then into Punjab.

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(ALL) Sat Sri Akaal!

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Before crossing
into Pakistan at Wagah.

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Ready?

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I can't hear anything.

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Welcome to Pakistan.

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Our journey will end
in the village of Fraono

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on the other side of the border.

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We'll bear witness to
how the border has divided lives

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but where hope
of a reunion still lives.

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We'll navigate dangerous terrain.

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Keep going! Keep going! Keep going!

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Cross into uncharted territory
and enter frontier towns.

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A lot of military movements
up there.

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Not necessarily a good look.

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That is all Taliban territory.

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We're heading off the beaten path
on an expedition of a lifetime.

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-You're going towards Srinagar?
-Srinagar.

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You're going to Islamabad?

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We've travelled through northwest
India from Ladakh through Kashmir

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and have crossed over
from Amritsar to Lahore.

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Now, we're on the final stretch
of our expedition.

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We started this journey with drama

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and we're going to
finish it with drama.

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Whilst I'm driving past
Bin Laden's house,

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Lev is probably 30,000 feet
in the air.

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Making our way through
Northwestern Pakistan.

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Pakistan's best kept secret.
Well, I'm intrigued.

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I think you started a fire, Ash.

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To reach our final destination
very close to where we started from.

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We've pretty much come full circle.
What a journey!

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Lev's still having a nap.

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So I'm going to go
for a bit of an explore

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as what I can see in the train.

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We're about two hours from Peshawar

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and I have come out to have a look
and it's stunning!

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Really different to the Punjab
that we have left behind.

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Instead of being very flat and lush

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it's much rockier,
mountainous, drier.

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Very excited to get to Peshawar.

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Peshawar is somewhere
I wanted to visit for a long time

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even though it's right up
on the border with Afghanistan

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it has a lot of relevance
for my family.

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My grandad's cousin,

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was arrested in Peshawar.

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He was on his way to Kabul

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as part of this conspiracy called
the "Ghadar Conspiracy",

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which was an effort
to start a mutiny

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to overthrow the British rule
in India.

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He was arrested
at Peshawar train station in 1914

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and sentenced to death.

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He eventually spent
his life in prison.

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He was in jail for 20 odd years.

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So, I've always wanted to go,
and visit Peshawar.

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I never thought I'd be able to do it

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but I'm going to go to the
very place that he was arrested.

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Peshawar train station.

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Trains and the
old Indian railway system,

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I love it.

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Sir, someone would have
come to see you.

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-How are you?
-Hi, I'm fine.

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So, I've been near
railway tracks before,

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seeing trains approach very close.

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Never have I been right
in the engine of the train.

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And it's amazing.

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It's amazing how late people wait
before they get out of the way.

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-Can I press?
-Yes, why not? Sure.

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(HORN SOUND)

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Five-year-old me would be so happy

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that I finally achieved
that in my life.

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-Thank you so much. Thank you.
-My pleasure. Welcome.

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Right, onto Peshawar.

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So, we have just arrived
in Peshawar station.

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Just woken up myself. I'm a bit
tired. You have been up for a while.

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I mean you've been
driving the train, isn't it?

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I have been driving the train

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and I'm very excited
about being here.

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This is very special place to me,
Lev.

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How many hours is that, Ash?
Is that about 12?

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-Twelve hours
-Twelve hours,

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to get here to Peshawar station.

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And this is it.
We're in the North-West Frontier.

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I never thought I'd come to Peshawar

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because it's so hard
for me to get a visa to Pakistan.

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And because of, you know,
the security stuff

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in the decades before.

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So, to be here now,
it's really special.

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First, we're heading to a place

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with great geographical
and historical significance

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on the Northwestern
edge of Pakistan.

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So far we've been traversing
the Line of Control,

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but Pakistan's other border
is no less controversial.

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So this is the road to Afghanistan,

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the famed Khyber Pass,
50 miles long.

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And historically some of the
most dangerous territory on Earth.

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This is the route
that invading armies

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have been travelling for hundreds
if not thousands of years.

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You know, it's the route
that Alexander the Great took

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it's the route that
the Mongol armies came over

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the invading Afghans

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and then the British
in both directions.

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And I suppose this,
this has always been the frontier of

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the Indian subcontinent,

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the gateway to India
and itself, and...

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Yeah, that's why it has always been
known as the North-West Frontier.

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I expected to see more
military all around

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but that doesn't mean this
isn't an area without risk.

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This is the Afghan border.

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Down there is the village
of Torkham.

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And...

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quite unbelievable to think
that we're standing

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right on the edge
of the Indian subcontinent,

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top of the Khyber Pass,
looking down into Afghanistan.

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That is all Taliban territory.

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It's almost like looking
at something you've heard about,

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like, this pseudo-mythical place.

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It's weird for me to be standing
here overlooking Afghanistan

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having been there as
a soldier myself, you know?

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I used to, I fought there

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part of the British army
against the Taliban,

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and now they run the country.

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So I'm sort of here
with mixed feelings really.

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It's quite sad,
particularly for the Afghan people

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who now live under
this brutal regime.

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-Salaam-alaikum.
-Walaikum-assalam.

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Hello. Hi, how are you?

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-Where are you going?
-Afghanistan.

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-Kabul?
-Yes.

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-Oh, Jalalabad?
-Jalalabad.

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Oh, okay!

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-What is in your truck?
-Coal.

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-What's that?
-Coal.

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You're taking coal

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-from Afghanistan to Pakistan or...
-Peshawar.

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-Peshawar!
-Peshawar!

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-There's a lot of trucks.
-There's a lot of trade, isn't it?

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Trade is good for them both.

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Whatever's happening
in the geo-politics

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people still need their goods
coming across through the border.

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We make our way back
to the city of Peshawar

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one of the oldest cities
in south Asia

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that was once an important
staging post for traders.

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You don't see many
women around here, do you?

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No, not really.

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-Like a real difference to Lahore.
-Yeah.

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Feels a lot more
male-dominated, doesn't it?

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Pretty much all men are
in the traditional Salwar-Kameez.

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Nobody, nobody is just like,
in jeans and t-shirts unlike us.

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Salaam-alaikum.

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Certainly makes us stand out,
a bit more.

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Yeah.

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In a back alley of Peshawar's
historic Qissa Khwani Bazaar,

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we're meeting Dr. Abdul Samad

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one of Pakistan's
leading archaeologists

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whose current project has a deep
link to the Indian film industry.

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You are standing here
in Dilip Kumar's house.

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He was born right here,
in this house.

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-Really? Wow!
-Yeah.

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So his original name was Yusuf Khan
but then he went to Indian industry,

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the Bollywood industry,
so he is known as Dilip Kumar.

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So now we are restoring
this small house

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and we plan to have a museum here

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and the Bollywood connection
between Pakistan and India.

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So we will display
his life contribution.

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And is the hope that you will,

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you know,
you'll attract people that are

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obviously, film lovers
and people from India

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to come here as well in the future

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-hopefully.
-Yes.

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Last year, when we got this house

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the late Dilip Kumar,
he was alive at that time

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he appreciated that step.

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His wife is very much interested
to come to see this ancestral house

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and I'm sure more people will come

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and they will see the real face
of Peshawar, real face of Pakistan.

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Not the one which is projected
in the media.

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Work isn't the only thing Dr. Samad
is passionate about.

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He also wants to show us
how the men in Peshawar have fun.

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And for that, he's driving us
to the nearby city of Nowshera.

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Come on, Ash.
Ready for a bit of off-roading?

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Yeah!

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Looking forward to this
spinning around in this playground.

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You guys are probably
the first non-Pakistani here...

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-Yeah?
-...to come here.

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That's why we just took
a longer route because

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we just don't want
to be seen by anyone.

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-The first foreigners to be here?
-Yes, yeah.

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Because it's a

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-military training area.
-Really?

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Yes.

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This is a regular playground
for Dr. Samad and his friends,

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who join us this evening.

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You definitely need all the handles

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if you're in the
passenger seat as well.

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Holding on with both hands.

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These are customised cars, I mean...

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Okay.

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Good for a bit of proper
offroad exploration?

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You're basically
the Pakistani Indiana Jones!

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Dr. Samad takes it up a notch
and shows us his wild side.

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Let's do it.

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Maybe...

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-Yeah! Yeah!
-Real life begins when you shift

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to the four by four.

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-Good for sunset.
-Yeah.

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This is beautiful from up here.

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So, where's the nearest,

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sort of, archaeological
site to here, do you think?

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All around this valley,

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you have archaeological site,
mostly Buddhist sites.

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The Gandhara and the Takht-i-Bahi

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World Heritage Site.

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-Okay.
-This is a melting pot of cultures

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like the Greek, Roman,
the Vedic civilisation.

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Different religion,
different cultures

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were learning from each other
and something new were emerging.

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You can see the Indus River
twinkling over there and these...

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little streams running into it
that are lush and green.

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So once you've crossed
those mountains,

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and you've got down here
this would seem like paradise.

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And a good place to

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settle down and build,
build a home, build a civilisation.

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All right, what's next then?

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Yeah, we're going
to have a few obstacle,

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and then there's
some secret for you.

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-Some secrets?
-Yeah.

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Okay.

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Some special training for you, Ash?

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I like secrets.

249
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,140
Next stop, "The secret".

250
00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,080
Well, we couldn't have
predicted this.

251
00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,060
Yeah.

252
00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:04,100
What are we,
what are we shooting at?

253
00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:05,160
Yeah?

254
00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,020
What happened?

255
00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,200
I was not expecting that.

256
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,100
Sorry, sir.

257
00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:20,060
We are in the semi-autonomous
tribal belt of Pakistan.

258
00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:22,280
That's loud.

259
00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:26,260
Where owning a military grade weapon
is considered normal.

260
00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:27,340
-Good to fire.
-Ready to fire.

261
00:14:27,380 --> 00:14:28,120
Yeah.

262
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,060
-Okay.
-Don't miss the holes.

263
00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:30,480
I'm not going to miss the hole.
Of course, not.

264
00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:38,140
Just a second.

265
00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:39,480
Just three-four rounds.

266
00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:41,040
-Just one...
-Yeah.

267
00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:43,160
-Okay. Ready?
-Just, just one.

268
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,480
Come on, Ash. Your turn.

269
00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:53,360
All right, come on, Ash.
Ready for it?

270
00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:59,380
-Where's the safety on here?
-On the left.

271
00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:02,000
You see that little switch?

272
00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,280
-Come over.
-Dropped the mag.

273
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,000
-Now, weapon change?
-All right.

274
00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:18,100
-Wow!
-I think you started a fire, Ash.

275
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400
-Huh?
-Over there, yeah.

276
00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,340
Here we go.

277
00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,000
Wow!

278
00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,060
-Bang on target.
-On safety?

279
00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,300
-Enjoy that?
-How was...

280
00:15:33,340 --> 00:15:35,120
How was my technique?
How was my firing position?

281
00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,220
I think you're,
you pretty good, Ash.

282
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,000
I can't hear anything.
I've got ringing in both ears.

283
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,340
So, does everybody in this region
regularly fire weapons?

284
00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:51,460
Does everyone own a weapon?

285
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,120
This is only for safety purpose,
nothing more than that.

286
00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,340
And, and it's genuinely something
you need in this region?

287
00:15:56,380 --> 00:15:58,140
-You need for sports
-We don't need anything...

288
00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:00,020
-purposes as well.
-just for security purpose.

289
00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:03,080
especially where you are standing
in such a place here

290
00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,160
you can have wild animal here, so...

291
00:16:05,380 --> 00:16:07,220
You can have wild animal-- Right!

292
00:16:07,260 --> 00:16:09,380
-These rabbits are pretty dangerous.
-Dangerous rabbits.

293
00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:11,360
-Pigs! Pigs, sir, pigs!
-Pigs?

294
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320
Everybody own a weapon mostly
for sports purposes.

295
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,140
-Yes.
-Yeah.

296
00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:17,020
-Sports purposes.
-It's a habit and hobby

297
00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:18,480
-Yeah.
-to keep a weapon with you.

298
00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,000
Pakistan has been great fun so far

299
00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,020
but I certainly didn't
expect to spend

300
00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,140
an evening driving around
in four by four

301
00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:33,240
and firing off weapons in, you know,
an army training ground.

302
00:16:33,380 --> 00:16:36,240
Yeah, it does seem like a
bit of a bizarre day out, isn't it?

303
00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,420
But I've had a lot of fun actually,

304
00:16:38,460 --> 00:16:41,180
and sort of seen how the Pakistanis
let their hair down.

305
00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,480
It seems to be one way
of doing it, isn't it?

306
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,420
Sort of drive around,
flash these cars around

307
00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,380
and then go and fire off some

308
00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:50,220
automatic machine guns
for a good, good measure.

309
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,340
Very good fun. Enjoyed it.

310
00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,200
Let me just make sure
I got my seat belt on first

311
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,300
if you're driving, Lev.

312
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,040
All right then, you ready?

313
00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:06,280
As we leave Nowshera
and head to Islamabad for the night,

314
00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:08,420
I notice that my ears
are still ringing

315
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,000
and haven't quite recovered
from the shooting.

316
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,460
But I'm hoping it'll
sort itself out.

317
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,280
We're out this morning to explore
one of Pakistan's most famous

318
00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,260
UNESCO World Heritage sites, Taxila.

319
00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:25,200
We can jump in one of these Qingqis?

320
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,100
-Yeah.
-Is that how you say it? "Chingkwi?"

321
00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:29,260
-"Chingchi?"
-"Chingchi," yeah.

322
00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:30,360
Salaam-alaikum.

323
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,220
Can we, can we go in,
yeah, to Taxila?

324
00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,160
You want me to drive? Yeah?
All right.

325
00:17:37,380 --> 00:17:38,280
All right.

326
00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:40,200
Let's go, driver.

327
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,460
Let me give you this camera, mate.

328
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,240
Am I going to have to negotiate
a fee with you now?

329
00:17:44,460 --> 00:17:46,160
How much to Taxila?

330
00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,020
I'll charge special rates
for you, mate.

331
00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:48,420
Don't worry.

332
00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:51,440
How much? I've been told I should
always get a price before I go.

333
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,400
I'll do a special discount rate
for you.

334
00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:07,140
How is it compared to
riding a motorbike, Lev?

335
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,200
It's a big different.
It doesn't feel quite so balanced.

336
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,100
Worried enough for everyone
else on the road.

337
00:18:15,140 --> 00:18:17,320
-Okay? Are we good?
-Good.

338
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,480
-Yeah.
-How's he doing?

339
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,020
I think he's a bit nervous

340
00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:22,420
that I'm gonna bugger up
his Chingkwi.

341
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,040
He's warding off
all the other traffic about me.

342
00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:29,000
He's saying,
''Keep my eyes on the road.''

343
00:18:31,220 --> 00:18:33,360
There it is, Ash. This is Taxila.

344
00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,100
Huh? How? Oh, foot on the floor.

345
00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:40,140
Okay.

346
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,420
You have to use your feet to stop!

347
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,480
Okay.

348
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,360
There, we got it right.
Thank you, my friend.

349
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,480
-Okay.
-Okay!

350
00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:51,340
How was his driving?

351
00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:52,440
-Driving was it okay?
-Was it okay?

352
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,380
Very good? Thank you.

353
00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:56,220
Cheers!

354
00:18:57,420 --> 00:19:00,000
So, this is it, Ash. This is Taxila.

355
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,340
So, what is, why are we here?

356
00:19:01,380 --> 00:19:03,280
-What's so special about this place?
-Well, I love this place

357
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,220
because it's a city, an ancient city
that was actually founded

358
00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:11,140
some say, as far as
five thousand years ago.

359
00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:11,480
Wow!

360
00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,120
But there's recorded archaeological
evidence dated back

361
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,300
thousands of years here.

362
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,080
Alexander the Great
even passed over this place

363
00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,120
and took it over for a short
while back in,

364
00:19:20,180 --> 00:19:22,120
I think, 326 BC but

365
00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:25,480
some of the ruins here date back
over 3,000 years.

366
00:19:26,020 --> 00:19:27,040
So it's quite amazing.

367
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,280
It's an old centre
of Hindu civilisation,

368
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,440
Buddhism as well

369
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,260
and it claims to have one of the
oldest universities in the world,

370
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,260
right here.

371
00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:37,300
I love how excited you get by

372
00:19:37,340 --> 00:19:39,100
-these things.
-I love it. It's great.

373
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,020
We're meeting Dr. Nadeem Omar Tarar,

374
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,340
an anthropologist passionate
about Taxila's history and art.

375
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,140
What are you making in here?

376
00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:52,340
Oh, it's Pakistan's
best kept secret.

377
00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:55,380
Pakistan's best kept secret!
Well, I'm intrigued.

378
00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,440
He's making a stupa the traditional
funerary architecture of Buddhists

379
00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:02,360
who have lived here

380
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,140
-2,000 years ago.
-Yeah.

381
00:20:04,260 --> 00:20:06,260
But the practise still lives on.

382
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,140
So this is a copy

383
00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:11,060
-of the ones inside Taxila?
-Yes, exactly!

384
00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:14,180
So, you know what?
I was here in 2004

385
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,080
the first time I came to Pakistan

386
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:20,080
and I remember going
around inside Taxila seeing

387
00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:24,160
and one of the locals to the
had something in a blanket

388
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,320
he said, "Do you want to
buy a Buddha's head?'"

389
00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:28,240
And I looked at it and said,
"Is this original?"

390
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,240
He said, "Yeah,
yeah, it's original."

391
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,300
Of course, I said, ''No''.

392
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:32,120
-I'm an anthropologist,
-Yeah.

393
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,140
-and I see a value there.
-Yeah.

394
00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:38,060
I see a skill which was
lost being revived by them.

395
00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,220
Is it possible for the untrained eye

396
00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:43,100
to tell the difference
between an original

397
00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:44,280
-and one of these replicas

398
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,380
that he's making?
-Absolutely not!

399
00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:49,220
And that is why it's considered
as counterfeit and illegal.

400
00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:52,000
And so how many of these replicas

401
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,240
are now in museums
or people's collections

402
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,300
-thinking they were real?
-Your guess is as good as mine.

403
00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:02,000
Even in British Museum,
you never know, his work is there.

404
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,140
Dr. Nadeem asks me
to give it a shot and I'm game.

405
00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:06,240
Let's go. You can sit here

406
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,440
-and he can...
-Yeah, okay.

407
00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:10,100
I hope this is not going
to put me in jail.

408
00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:13,300
So, where do I sit?
On the little stool?

409
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:14,080
Yes.

410
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,060
Oh, I'm not sure
my legs are up for this.

411
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,240
By the way, that's a Greek figure.

412
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,440
-Yeah, you can see the hair.
-That's not a Buddhist figure.

413
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280
You're actually doing it better.

414
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:26,220
It's quite a feat.

415
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,420
-He's a quick learner.
-I think I found my new trade.

416
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,320
I knew I was built for something.

417
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040
It's taken me this long
to figure it out but

418
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,220
counterfeiting is my, is my calling.

419
00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:44,020
We head out with Dr. Nadeem
to explore the ancient city.

420
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Why is Taxila so important
for, like, cultural significance?

421
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,320
Why is it such an important site?

422
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,460
See, Taxila is important
because it existed at the crossroad.

423
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,080
The Silk Route which connected
China with Rome

424
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,000
-Yeah.
-was actually passing

425
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,120
-through Taxila.
-Wow!

426
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,420
Alexander the Great came here.

427
00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:03,480
I mean, why was it so important to,
to that culture

428
00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:04,400
and how did that spread?

429
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,400
It's very interesting
that these roads.

430
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,180
Yeah.

431
00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:10,120
Were used by the conquerors
as well as merchants.

432
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,400
Right.

433
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,140
They're not just
sharing sort of goods,

434
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:15,300
-but they're also exchanging ideas.
-Yeah.

435
00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:18,460
So as a result of that,
the whole area acquired

436
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,380
-a cultural.
-A Greek flavour.

437
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,020
A Greek flavour!

438
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:27,000
And, and Greek culture permeated,
as you see through the sculpture

439
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:28,460
-The art.
-because that is the only

440
00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:30,240
thing that survived.

441
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,340
And they tell they reveal
the fusion of this Greek culture

442
00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:36,300
-with the Indian culture.
-Yeah.

443
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,420
-So, what's this place?
-This is Jandial Temple.

444
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,360
This is a Zoroastrian temple.

445
00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:44,360
Built in a Greek style
by the Greek masons.

446
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,180
I came here in 2004.
I remember this place.

447
00:22:49,260 --> 00:22:52,460
It looks like it's been
quite badly damaged.

448
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,460
Is this recent, then?

449
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,360
Well, people have been
stealing the stones.

450
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480
Yes, exactly.
They do it almost imperceptibly.

451
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,020
If you have taken photographs
of the place over time

452
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,220
it's only when you can
spot the difference.

453
00:23:04,260 --> 00:23:07,040
I've got a photograph of this place.
Let me find it.

454
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,040
Oh, really?

455
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,040
So, they just take,
like, one little stone...

456
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,320
-Look at this!
-Yeah, yes, exactly.

457
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,480
-This was me in 2004.
-Oh, wow!

458
00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:16,420
Right there,
and you can see the column

459
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:18,480
-that's completely that's just gone.
-Oh, dear.

460
00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:21,380
In fact, it's been stolen!
The top has been stolen

461
00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:24,200
and all of that wall gone!

462
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:26,380
Totally destroyed!
It's heartbreaking!

463
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,380
This visit highlights the fact

464
00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:33,000
that preserving heritage
takes collective will and effort.

465
00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:35,260
Hopefully, people like Dr. Nadeem

466
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,420
can help keep
these ancient sites safe

467
00:23:37,460 --> 00:23:39,300
for generations to come.

468
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,300
I'm loving my time in Pakistan.

469
00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,140
You know,
it was great to feel immersed.

470
00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:48,200
And it was also

471
00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:51,440
great to go out
and spend some time with

472
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:55,180
these guys, learning
how Pakistanis have fun.

473
00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:57,060
They've been so incredibly welcoming

474
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,300
and to go smashing around
in the desert and

475
00:24:00,460 --> 00:24:03,040
doing the four-wheel driving
and then

476
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:07,040
you know, firing off guns
into the desert, which

477
00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:09,140
those seem to enjoy a great deal.

478
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,100
It's also caused

479
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,300
an unexpected problem for me.
I have...

480
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,300
Actually had some hearing damage
from firing off the weapons and,

481
00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:21,060
I went to go
and see an ear specialist today

482
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,060
who recommended that
I don't actually get on a flight

483
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,460
for the next few days.

484
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,360
So we're heading up to Skardu,
and Lev's going to take the plane

485
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,300
and head off and start
exploring the area a bit.

486
00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:35,280
I'm going to have to take a...

487
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,160
...a car journey up there

488
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,020
so I don't fly, which is going
to take about 20 hours.

489
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,280
Take care.
See you on the other side, yeah.

490
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,100
-All right.
-Great. Enjoy the flight.

491
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,380
Good luck. Safe driving.

492
00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:53,000
Well, the streets of Islamabad are

493
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,180
pretty quiet at this time
of the day. It's just gotten 5 a.m.

494
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,140
-Hey, Ilyas, long drive?
-Yes.

495
00:25:01,460 --> 00:25:03,260
-20 hours?
-20 hours!

496
00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:06,300
So, the road to Skardu begins.

497
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,060
Because of local security concerns,
we'd been advised to fly to Skardu.

498
00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:17,020
But after travelling for almost
2,000 kilometres by road...

499
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Ash, has no choice

500
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,020
but to brave the long journey
because of his ear condition

501
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,340
while I take to the air.

502
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,380
So we're just driving past

503
00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:30,080
the city of Abbottabad,
which gained infamy

504
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,480
as the location of the final hideout
of Osama bin Laden,

505
00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:35,280
the leader of Al-Qaeda.

506
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,180
We talked about possibly
going in to visit it but

507
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,340
it's a very sensitive area

508
00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:46,340
very sensitive spot right in the
middle of a very militarised city.

509
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,100
So, we decided it probably
wasn't a good idea.

510
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320
But it does feel very strange
to be driving past

511
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,400
the home of a man
who changed this region

512
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,020
and indeed the world so much and

513
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,440
whilst I'm driving past
Bin Laden's house,

514
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Lev is probably
30,000 feet in the air

515
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,240
enjoying glorious views of
Nanga Parbat and the mountains.

516
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:19,040
(ANNOUNCEMENT OVER PA)

517
00:26:19,180 --> 00:26:21,160
Zero, two, four, eight.

518
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,420
So this is Skardu...

519
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,220
...right up in the north.

520
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:29,300
But actually, it reminds me
a little bit of where we started...

521
00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:31,080
in India, up in Ladakh.

522
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,220
which is actually not far away.

523
00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:35,160
Just over that mountains there.

524
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,420
I'm on the Karakoram Highway,

525
00:26:39,460 --> 00:26:41,440
one of the highest
paved roads on Earth.

526
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,160
It extends from the Punjab province
in Pakistan all the way to China.

527
00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:48,200
After 10 hours of driving,

528
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,040
I reach Jaglot a small town
with a unique feature.

529
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440
So this point here where the Gilgit,
and Indus rivers meet,

530
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,200
is also the junction point of

531
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,480
the three highest mountain
ranges in the world.

532
00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:01,100
You've got the Himalaya down there

533
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320
Karakoram over here
and then the Hindu Kush over there.

534
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,420
Hindu Kush is the one
that runs into Pakistan,

535
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,100
from Pakistan into Afghanistan

536
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:13,220
and the Karakoram
goes up towards China

537
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:18,040
and then the Himalayas, of course,
we know from India and into Nepal

538
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,000
finishing in Bhutan.

539
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,220
So amazing to be at this junction,
of these three great mountain ranges

540
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:25,360
a quirk of geography and geology

541
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,060
when the Indian
subcontinent smashed up

542
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,240
into Asia about
60 million years ago.

543
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,120
I'm spending the night in the middle
of the Katpana desert

544
00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:41,120
at a remote campsite
with phenomenal views

545
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:46,360
run by a former corporate executive,
turned adventurer, Fahad Mahmood.

546
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,300
But first we're off to check out
the Sarfaranga sand dunes.

547
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,100
Well, I'll give it to you.

548
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:54,260
You've brought me to
a pretty magnificent place.

549
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:58,100
-I told you about it.
-Absolutely. Beautiful!

550
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,340
This is most probably the highest
cold desert on the planet.

551
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:02,340
-Is it?
-Yeah.

552
00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:03,320
Wow!

553
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:05,360
Let's see what the
view's like from the top,

554
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,200
-shall we?
-Why not?

555
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240
What's it like living here,
then, for you?

556
00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:11,000
You're a local?
Where were you born?

557
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,020
-I was born in Lahore.
-Oh, right. Okay.

558
00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:15,460
-So, you moved here because of this?
-Yes.

559
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280
-Because of the beauty, I guess.
-Because of the nature.

560
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,180
Yeah.

561
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,320
When I said to people
I was coming to Pakistan

562
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,340
When I said I was going to India,

563
00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:24,080
everyone was like,
"Have a lovely holiday."

564
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,460
The moment you say you're coming
to Pakistan, everyone's terrified.

565
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,440
They think you're going
to get kidnapped to Kaboom!

566
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Yeah, blown up by the Taliban,
but like

567
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:34,100
you come here, it's actually not
so different from over the border.

568
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:37,180
In fact, it feels incredibly
safe here and

569
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,260
everyone is lovely and welcoming
and hospitable.

570
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:44,140
I mean, what's your take on that?
What would you say to the world?

571
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:48,000
I think we, we are one of the
oldest civilisations on the planet.

572
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360
-Yeah.
-And we carry that genes.

573
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,300
So we are not what you think we are,

574
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000
we are way,
more deeper than that.

575
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,120
You just need to come meet us.

576
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,140
It's just a dream.

577
00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:06,260
Whether you're a mountaineer,
a photographer

578
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,040
or just all-round
travelling adventurer.

579
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,280
This is the place to come.

580
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Well, what a day!

581
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:23,080
I mean, apart from
being split up with Ash

582
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,220
it's been really, really awesome.

583
00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:29,100
For me Pakistan has been amazing.
I've had such an incredible time.

584
00:29:29,140 --> 00:29:33,100
The sheer diversity of the country,
and of course, the hospitality.

585
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:36,180
Staying here on the top of
this cliff overlooking that valley

586
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:39,160
has gotta be one of the best
campsites anywhere in the world.

587
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,000
So we've been waiting for Ash,
and he's finally arrived.

588
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:55,100
Ashwin! Hello, mate.

589
00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:57,260
Come, say hello.

590
00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:00,360
-You are all right, buddy?
-I'm exhausted.

591
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,100
-Are you tired?
-Yeah.

592
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:06,340
So, Ash has just arrived.
It's good to be reunited with him.

593
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,340
Sounds like he's had
a pretty long and tiring ride.

594
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480
But, you know, it's good,
it's good that he's here.

595
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:16,420
And, yeah, it means we can actually
finish the journey together,

596
00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:18,140
which is fantastic!

597
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,340
So I'm just going to let him,
leave him to rest for an hour

598
00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:24,060
or so to catch up
on some sleep, and...

599
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,060
And then we've got to go
and do some deliveries.

600
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,120
We borrow Fahad's bike
and make our way through Skardu

601
00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:37,480
looking for Ghulam Qadir's house
to deliver a precious cargo

602
00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:40,280
that's been our travelling companion
since Ladakh.

603
00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:47,440
Gullu will be very happy.
This has travelled a long way.

604
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,060
This has come a long way.

605
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,280
Yeah, he sent me
a photo of the door.

606
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,240
-Yeah.
-This is it.

607
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160
-Let's hope he's in.
-Hopefully.

608
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,060
I wonder if he's in.

609
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:02,440
-Hello!
-Yes?

610
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,380
-Hello, hi.
-Hello, hi.

611
00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:07,140
-My name is Lev.
-Yes?

612
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:08,140
-I'm Ashwin.
-This is Ash.

613
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,340
-Salaam-alaikum.
-Walaikum-assalam.

614
00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:12,480
We're looking for Mr. Ghulam Qadir.

615
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,340
Ghulam Qadir. He's in Islamabad.

616
00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:16,280
-He's in Islamabad?
-Yes.

617
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,240
-But he lives here?
-Yes, I'm his son.

618
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,000
You are his son? Okay.
Your name is?

619
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,300
-My name is Basharat.
-Basharat.

620
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:23,000
-Nice to meet you, Basharat.
-Thank you.

621
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,060
Do you know a man called Gullu
from India?

622
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,340
-Yes, he's my cousin.
-He is your cousin?

623
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,120
Yes.

624
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Well, we have a present
for you from him.

625
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,020
Oh, that's nice.
Thank you, thank you.

626
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:34,040
-It's travelled a very long way.
-Thank you.

627
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,160
So, please come.

628
00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,400
We haven't actually
seen this pressure cooker.

629
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,000
-Yeah.
-We should see what it looks like.

630
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,100
-Yeah, we have to check it.
-Is it a good one?

631
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,180
-This is so nice.
-Yeah?

632
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:48,140
And you cannot get this
in Pakistan?

633
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:50,400
No. This cooker
is specially made in India.

634
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,180
-Right.
-Really?

635
00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:54,320
I don't, I have ever seen
such type of pressure cooker.

636
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,220
Right!

637
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:58,020
One pressure cooker that
my father bring...

638
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:00,460
almost in 1990.

639
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,340
-Still, we are using that cooker.
-So you're due,

640
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:04,320
-so you're due an upgrade?
-Yes.

641
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:06,320
How many years ago was that?

642
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,040
-32 years!
-32 years ago. God!

643
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,240
It must be strange having half
of your family

644
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,240
on this side of the border

645
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,140
and half of your family
on the Indian side.

646
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:21,100
Yes, it's too strange
that a single man lives here.

647
00:32:21,260 --> 00:32:25,200
All of his family lived there
for almost,

648
00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:26,360
it is now...

649
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360
-71 to here, almost 52 years.
-Yeah.

650
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:32,480
-Wow!
-It was.

651
00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:36,340
Does it ever feel lonely being
separated from your family so much?

652
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:38,200
Yes, absolutely.

653
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,420
My father, when he calls my village

654
00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:43,020
-after the end of the call,
-Yeah.

655
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:44,160
almost he...

656
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:48,340
He doesn't show that he's sad.

657
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:55,300
He also had a wife
in my native village.

658
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,140
-So, he had to remarry?
-Yes, after...

659
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,380
Almost 10 to 12 years,
he waited for her.

660
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,480
After August 1983.

661
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Right.

662
00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:11,040
During crossing the Indus River,
Shyok River

663
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,120
is she fell in that river.

664
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,260
She was trying to cross the river?

665
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:16,280
-Yes, she was trying to go.
-And what happened?

666
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,460
And her dead body was

667
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,440
in Khaplu village,
her grave is there.

668
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,460
-What a sad story!
-By his hand

669
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,480
my father made
the grave of his last wife.

670
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,380
And after that, in 85, 86,
our father married with my mother.

671
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:36,260
God!

672
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,280
-Very sad, very sad.
-So whenever we see our father...

673
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000
after he...

674
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,460
he's a bit...

675
00:33:51,380 --> 00:33:52,320
it's okay.

676
00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:55,380
You don't have to go on
if you don't want to.

677
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,440
I'm so, I'm sorry to have upset you.

678
00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:05,260
And there's one more thing

679
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,220
my father don't visit Fraono
because of a single reason.

680
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,180
He sees his own village.

681
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,060
So, to avoid the pain

682
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:16,480
-he doesn't go there?
-Yes.

683
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:18,280
there because it would
hurt him too much--

684
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,240
He can see but he doesn't go there.

685
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,380
He's unable to reach there.

686
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,220
I can't imagine what that'd be like.

687
00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:29,260
So this thing often hurts our heart.

688
00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:34,180
Basharat's account
is similar to stories

689
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:36,280
that we heard on the
other side of the border.

690
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:41,060
For people living in either country,
the pain of separation is the same.

691
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,480
With one delivery done, we move
onwards to make our final delivery.

692
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:49,100
-Hello, sir.
-Hello.

693
00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:50,400
-Are you Mr. Bashir?
-Yeah.

694
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,180
Hello, sir. My name is Levison.

695
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:56,040
We are carrying a gift for Muhammad
Bashir from his sister Rahima.

696
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Who we met at the start
of our journey in Turtuk.

697
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,420
Well, I have something
a little present for you.

698
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,440
-One of my photographs.
-Thank you.

699
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,380
Here we go, here we go.

700
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,340
My brother, my sister,
my mum and my...

701
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,260
-sister's son.
-Yeah.

702
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:15,400
-Thank you. Thank you.
-Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure.

703
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,320
They thought you would like that.
So...

704
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,440
-Thank you very much.
-Oh, there we go.

705
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:26,060
Yeah, they spoke so warmly of you.
They, they, they miss you a lot.

706
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,180
They miss you.

707
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,320
-I'm also missing them.
-Yeah.

708
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,180
We can take a photo
to show your son?

709
00:35:33,220 --> 00:35:37,320
The last time that Muhammad Bashir
met his mother was back in 2013,

710
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,060
when he was granted a visa
to go to India.

711
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,140
What did it feel like
to return home?

712
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,100
Well, I'm very excited.
And especially my mother.

713
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,240
-Yes.
-After our separation

714
00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:52,000
-10 years we have no communication.
-No?

715
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,160
-Well, because--
-When I write a letter...

716
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,100
Yeah?

717
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:58,320
It reaches there after six months
and their reply

718
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,360
-comes after six months.
-Really, wow!

719
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,200
In one year, we have communicated
with one another.

720
00:36:04,220 --> 00:36:07,420
Well, thank you so much
for being a part of this journey.

721
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:09,420
-It's made us very happy.
-Oh, my poor English, I have...

722
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:11,020
-No, your English is fantastic.
-No, your English is wonderful.

723
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,300
Thank you so much. Thank you.

724
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,040
That was really nice,
seeing Mr. Bashir

725
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:21,080
and handing him the photograph
from Hashmat and his family.

726
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:22,300
Really, really nice.

727
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,340
It really has been very special.

728
00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,260
We're privileged to come here
and meet these people

729
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,380
and pass on the messages
of love from their family in India

730
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,240
and to share their story.

731
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:42,120
After travelling
over 2,000 kilometres...

732
00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:45,420
across one volatile border
dividing two countries

733
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,400
we have just under
200 kilometres to go.

734
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,460
And once again, the Shyok river
guides us to our destination.

735
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,480
So we're walking to Khaplu,

736
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,000
which is sort of getting closer
to the Line of Control.

737
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,340
And, yeah, it's sort of weird now

738
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:09,180
going towards the
end of the journey.

739
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,080
And as we were on the other side,
we're following this great river

740
00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:16,000
that has been the lifeblood to

741
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:19,220
civilisations for
thousands of years and...

742
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:22,240
Yeah, it feels like
we're coming full circle, literally.

743
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,040
It's quite an oppressive day
with these

744
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,160
dark storm clouds coming out
and it might rain soon.

745
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:32,400
But...

746
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:36,420
we've got this really
amazing dramatic scenery

747
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:38,140
and these beautiful cliffs,

748
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:40,300
and the river cuts
into the gorge down there.

749
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:44,300
So it's, you know, we started
this journey with drama,

750
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,200
and we're going
to finish it with drama.

751
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:07,020
We arrive in the town of Khaplu

752
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200
which was once the
second-largest kingdom

753
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,260
of the Yabgo Dynasty
in Old Baltistan.

754
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,260
Something's kicking off, isn't it?

755
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:16,160
-Hey!
-Look at this!

756
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,340
Today,
there's a festive spirit in the air.

757
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,320
Hi. How are you?

758
00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:25,180
What's happening?

759
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,020
-Polo match!
-There's a Polo match today?

760
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:30,140
-Oh, boy!
-Can we join? Can we follow you?

761
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:31,220
Come and watch?

762
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,420
I think they're all very excited
to play a bit of Polo, aren't they?

763
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:40,420
They're dancing.

764
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:44,140
Like Turtuk, Khaplu is home
to the Balti people

765
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,100
and the Polo is played
with passion here as well.

766
00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:51,380
The match is being held on
the polo ground near Khaplu Palace.

767
00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:53,460
And it starts the traditional way

768
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,420
with Nasir Ali Khan,
the region's king throwing the ball.

769
00:39:01,060 --> 00:39:02,180
All right, it's kicked off.

770
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,260
Go! Go!

771
00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:15,180
-Blues score!
-Go, Blues!

772
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,220
These guys look pretty skilled.

773
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,180
Get it in. Finish it! Finish it!

774
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:30,340
Finish it! Oh, close, close!

775
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,440
Hi, how are you doing?

776
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,120
We meet Ali Abbas

777
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,100
the reigning prince of Khaplu
who is one of the polo players.

778
00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:43,300
-Beautiful horses you have.
-You ride?

779
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:44,340
Yeah, we do.

780
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:47,200
A little bit.
Yeah, we played polo in Turtuk.

781
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Although the horses
were a lot smaller.

782
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Yeah, you got,
you got much bigger horses here.

783
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,200
The Prince asks us,
if we want to ride?

784
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:57,100
And we won't pass up the opportunity
to get on horseback once again.

785
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,340
Hold up, hold up.

786
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:01,480
-Let's go with this one, then?
-Okay?

787
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,020
He's a better size
for me than Freddie.

788
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:08,360
I'm just going to trot along.

789
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,240
Go on, Lev!

790
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:21,040
-Go on, get in there.
-It's like rugby.

791
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:23,040
Horse rugby!

792
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,220
Horse rugby. Yes! Go!

793
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:30,220
All right, they're barging them
straight into the wall there.

794
00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:32,360
-Yes!
-Go!

795
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,000
-Yeah!
-Yeah!

796
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:40,380
Well done, boys!

797
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,380
What a sport. They call it the
sport of kings, don't they?

798
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:46,220
Here we go.
I'm on the Prince's horse.

799
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:47,340
Princes and kings!

800
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,120
Should we have one little race, Ash?

801
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,020
-Quick. One quick little race?
-Yeah, I'm in.

802
00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:53,380
Go!

803
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,240
I can't resist one final
head to head.

804
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Come on, Ash.

805
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,060
This could be my last chance
to redeem myself on a polo ground.

806
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,360
Yeah, come on, Ash. Good lad.

807
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,100
Well done, Ash. Well done.

808
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,320
I think your experience of being

809
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,260
on the Prince's horse
certainly helped.

810
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,220
Very invigorating. Thank you, sir.

811
00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:26,200
-Well done, mate.
-And thank you, Freddie two.

812
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,140
You looked after me. Well done.

813
00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:29,420
Should we join in the dancing?

814
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,280
Lev may be better with horses

815
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,340
but when it comes to dancing,
I'm in my element.

816
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:41,360
Good effort, mate.

817
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:45,160
Thank you!

818
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,340
It seemed like such an amazing,
vast goal

819
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:56,220
when we set out and

820
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,200
with all the challenges
that we've gone through to get here.

821
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:05,380
And we've come all the way around
and we've seen so much

822
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,480
and for me in particular,

823
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:09,360
the two places
that have mattered so much,

824
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,280
being Punjab and Pakistan.

825
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,020
They're two places
I've wanted to visit for so long.

826
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,020
And I don't know quite
how I'm going to feel when I...

827
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,240
get to the end point
near the village of Fraono

828
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,140
and just look down the river

829
00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:27,100
at where we started.

830
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,180
Can't believe this is it
the final night

831
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,280
here in Khaplu and yeah,
only 50 kilometres to push

832
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,200
to get to Fraono
and that's the end of the road.

833
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:45,020
I can't believe the journey
is almost at an end.

834
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:46,300
It's quite emotional, really.

835
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:49,380
But yeah, I'm looking forward to...

836
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,280
You know,
completing the circle really.

837
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,220
And it is a heavily militarised zone

838
00:42:57,260 --> 00:43:00,100
so I don't know if there's going
to be any checkpoints so,

839
00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:02,160
how close to the border
itself we'll be able to get

840
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160
hopefully, we'll be able to
get to the village of Fraono.

841
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,400
But let's see...

842
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,060
It's the final morning
of this 2500-kilometre journey.

843
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,300
Which will end in Fraono,
on the other side of Tyakshi...

844
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,060
the village in Ladakh,
from where we started.

845
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,140
There's one final barrier
in our way.

846
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,240
There's a military checkpoint
just a mile or so ahead.

847
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,420
And we've heard that there's

848
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:29,160
is actually quite
a big military presence

849
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:31,380
in the valley
where Fraono is situated.

850
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,320
We've not seen too much
military movement around.

851
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200
But, you know, these...

852
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,100
We've had troubles with checkpoints
already on this journey, and...

853
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,340
It is a contested border
at the end of the day.

854
00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:45,040
And we've seen on the Indian side

855
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,180
just how much military presence
there is on that side. So...

856
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,020
it's going to be the same here,
isn't it?

857
00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:53,280
And it makes sense
that they don't want people

858
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,080
walking around in these
kinds of areas, do they?

859
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,140
Yeah, I mean it is such a cliche but

860
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,120
it isn't about the destination,
it's about the journey.

861
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,320
this journey has been incredible.

862
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:04,260
-It's been awesome.
-It really has.

863
00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:07,080
We've pretty much come full circle.
What a journey!

864
00:44:14,020 --> 00:44:15,440
We're only a few
kilometres from Fraono

865
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:17,420
when we're stopped at a checkpoint.

866
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,400
They've taken all our papers

867
00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:27,080
and we're waiting
to hear from the authorities.

868
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,460
One thing this journey
has consistently taught us

869
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
is that border towns
along the Line of Control

870
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,300
are heavily guarded
and remain highly unpredictable.

871
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,440
We're trying to get over there.

872
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,300
That's Fraono,
just about 35, 40 kilometres

873
00:44:45,340 --> 00:44:49,320
on the other side of that,
that mountain pass there.

874
00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:51,180
That's where we wanted to get to.

875
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:56,040
And sadly, because of politics
and bureaucracy, they said, ''No''.

876
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,140
Basically, this checkpoint here,
this is the end of the road.

877
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:01,460
It's very sad.

878
00:45:02,020 --> 00:45:04,480
I'm really, I'm sad. I'm frustrated.

879
00:45:05,420 --> 00:45:06,400
And in a strange way,

880
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,280
it's helped me empathise
even more with the families.

881
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,260
Imagine having that for 50 years.
It's bad enough for us.

882
00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:17,440
This, this border, man.
This damn border.

883
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,260
Whilst this isn't exactly where
we wanted to finish our expedition,

884
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,380
we set aside our disappointment

885
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:39,220
and complete our journey
in a different way.

886
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,400
We're almost at the end now.
That's where we're heading.

887
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,220
That mountain in the middle
of the river valley.

888
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
We're going to get
to the viewpoint there

889
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,080
where at least
we can see down the valley

890
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,360
towards the point
that we started this journey.

891
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,360
What a place to finish, mate?

892
00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:17,140
This is one of the most beautiful
places on Earth, undoubtedly.

893
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,020
And...

894
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,240
I feel privileged to be here

895
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,240
to finish this journey here
with you in this place

896
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,160
that has so much
significance and meaning,

897
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:32,140
summarises so much of what
we have looked at in this journey.

898
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,220
And perfectly, we've got
one final tough push up hill

899
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,120
to get to the end.

900
00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:41,380
Let's do it.

901
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,220
Yeah, one final climb up
that mountain

902
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:46,420
and then we've made it.

903
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,380
We made it.

904
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,220
Yes! Well done, mate.

905
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:19,340
This is it, the final point.

906
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040
What a place to finish!

907
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,020
Yes, this is the end of the journey,

908
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:27,360
because over there,
down that valley,

909
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,000
that's where we started

910
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,080
and here we are,
right on this little summit

911
00:47:32,180 --> 00:47:34,200
overlooking this beautiful valley,

912
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,460
amazing river,
right on the roof of the world.

913
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:41,100
That ridge line there,

914
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:44,240
you can see that was the
one we could see from Tyakshi,

915
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,280
when we looked up

916
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,280
and it went around the bend.

917
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,100
That was the ridge we saw.

918
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,460
We did it. We did it!

919
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,020
We feel incredibly privileged

920
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:58,260
to have explored the borderlands
between India and Pakistan.

921
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,240
We have experienced
great warmth and hospitality

922
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,180
in both these countries
that were once one.

923
00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:08,220
And still have so much in common.

924
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:12,120
We hope that this line
that has divided them for so long

925
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,120
does not stop these two nations

926
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,420
from finding lasting peace
in the future.

927
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:18,460
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