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MAN: Oh, my God!

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Oh, my God!

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Oh, my God!
MAN: I could see
just this enormous cloud of black

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MAN: I could see
just this enormous cloud of black

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MAN: I could see
and bright white steam and ash.

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and bright white steam and ash.

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At that point there was definitely
a shift of, I guess,

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shock and horror.

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MAN: Go, go, go, go, go.

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Jesus.

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MAN: I remember that sinking feeling
when I realised

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there were people
probably on the island,

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and that there were probably
really tragic consequences.

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and that there were probably
Holy crap.

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Holy crap.

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Oh, my God.

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Oh, my God.

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REPORTER: When New Zealand's
White Island Volcano erupted

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on December 9 last year,

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there were 47 people
trapped in the crater.

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there were 47 people
Look. Look.

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Look. Look.

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Oh, no.

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Horrified sightseers
were the first on the scene.

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Some people was quiet, very quiet.
Some people was screaming.

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Some people was crying.

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There was no second-guessing,
no hesitation.

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MAN: We got to the victims,
started helping them,

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putting on gas masks,
giving them water,

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putting them in
the recovery position,

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making them as comfortable
as we can.

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Just reassuring them
that we are there.

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Just reassuring them
We are there to help

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We are there to help

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and, "We are going to get you
We are there to help

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and, "We are going to get you
off the island,"

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and, "We are going to get you
and "You're not alone".

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and "You're not alone".

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Tonight, on Four Corners
the extraordinary efforts

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by ordinary people to rescue the
victims of the White Island disaster.

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We investigate how much tourists
were told, and understood,
by ordinary people to rescue the
victims of the White Island disaster.

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We investigate how much tourists
were told, and understood,

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about the dangers of visiting
New Zealand's most active volcano.

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about the dangers of visiting
New Zealand's most active volcano.
And we examine whether
more could have been done

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And we examine whether
more could have been done

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to prevent this tragedy

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that's left 21 people dead

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and many others with lifelong
traumatic injuries.

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On December 4 last year the Ovation
of the Seas set sail from Sydney

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On December 4 last year the Ovation
for New Zealand.

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for New Zealand.

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It was peak cruise season

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and thousands of Australians
had bought tickets

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for one of the last trips
before Christmas.

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On board the Royal Caribbean cruise
was Adelaide lawyer Gavin Dallow,

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his wife Lisa, and her 15-year-old
daughter Zoe Hosking.

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his wife Lisa, and her 15-year-old
MAN: Lisa and Zoe changed his life.

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MAN: Lisa and Zoe changed his life.

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I just know that it's the greatest
thing that ever happened to Gavin.

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When I first met Lisa it was...
I just know that it's the greatest
thing that ever happened to Gavin.

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When I first met Lisa it was...

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..you could tell there
was just something.

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And it was just so good to see...
most of all he was just so happy.

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MAN: They were really
looking forward to it.

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Then Gavin sent a picture of them

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as they were going through
Sydney Heads

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and said, "Goodbye, Australia,
Hello, New Zealand."

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Also, on the Ovation of the Seas
were Sydney family the Langfords -

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mum and dad Kristine and Anthony,

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and their teenage children
Jesse and Winona.

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John Cozad and his son Chris
from New South Wales

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John Cozad and his son Chris
were on board too.

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were on board too.

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WOMAN: There were lots of families
taking, I suppose,

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an early Christmas, or a lead into
their Christmas holidays,

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and the mindset
really is to be carefree,

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to let the cruise company
look after their holiday.

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They've paid a lot of money.
to let the cruise company
look after their holiday.

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They've paid a lot of money.

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They've planned for it.
They've taken leave from work.

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The mindset is,
"I can let them look after me."

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One of the highlights
offered to passengers

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was a day trip to visit
White Island volcano.

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Gavin just happened to mention
that he was going to White Island,

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'cause he knew it was on my bucket
list, because I wanted to go there.

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He didn't say not to tell anyone,
but as it turned out,

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I was the only person
in the family that he'd let know.

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I was the only person
They were provided with a brochure

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They were provided with a brochure

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that was branded
with Royal Caribbean branding.

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They would have been
provided with a ticket

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also branded with
Royal Caribbean branding,

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also branded with
and they were told in the brochure

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and they were told in the brochure

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that all they needed to do
if they were attending this tour

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was to wear enclosed shoes.

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The brochure promised tourists
could "get close to the drama".

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It said, "Gas masks help you get
near roaring steam vents,

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"bubbling pits of mud,
hot volcanic streams

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"bubbling pits of mud,
hot volcanic streams
"and the amazing lake
of steaming acid."

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"and the amazing lake
of steaming acid."

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They were told to think about

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whether they were OK
with doing a strenuous walk.

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People in wheelchairs were told
that it probably wasn't a good idea

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for them to go on the island.

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But, generally, all they were told

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is this was an adventurous,
fun thing to do

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is this was an adventurous,
and just to wear enclosed shoes.

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and just to wear enclosed shoes.

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What were they told about the risks
and just to wear enclosed shoes.

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What were they told about the risks
and the risk of an eruption?

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What were they told about the risks
Nothing.

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Nothing.

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Absolutely nothing.

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Tourism New Zealand
promoted White Island

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to Australian travel agents
as one of the country's hidden gems.

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MAN: White Island is an active
volcano. It's a cone volcano.

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It's the type of volcano
that a kid would draw at school.

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It's a typical,
regularly erupting, active volcano.

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The different thing about
White Island
It's a typical,
regularly erupting, active volcano.

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The different thing about
White Island

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is most of it's underwater,
White Island

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is most of it's underwater,

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so the tip of the island only
is poking out through the ocean.

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More than 18,000 people
visited the island each year.

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MAN: It would be something like
if you pictured going to Mars.

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The landscape's so unique.

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The colours are real fluorescent
and different.

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It's such a harsh looking
environment and it's active.

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Things were always changing.

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There was always sounds
or vents and stuff.
Things were always changing.

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There was always sounds
or vents and stuff.

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It was just a real awesome,
awesome place.

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MAN: When you arrive
at White Island,

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you're transferred into
a Zodiac rubber boat,

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you're transferred into
usually six to 10 people,

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usually six to 10 people,

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and you're then ferried
to this rough concrete landing

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where you are gingerly
helped from the boat

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where you are gingerly
onto the, uh, landing platform.

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onto the, uh, landing platform.

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When you actually land
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and you walk into the crater
of the volcano,

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you're actually walking right
into the throat of an active volcano
and you walk into the crater
of the volcano,

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you're actually walking right
into the throat of an active volcano

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that has erupted frequently,
uh, in the last several decades.

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In 2016, scientists got a warning
of just how dangerous

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In 2016, scientists got a warning
an eruption on White Island could be.

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an eruption on White Island could be.

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GRAHAM: So, there was an eruption
in 2016. It was at night.

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It was a similar eruption in that
it had a column up in the air,

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it produced a surge out
across the ground,

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it probably threw quite a lot of
rock and ballistics,

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but there was nobody on the island -
that's the big difference.

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It was very clear that
if people had been on that island

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at that time in 2016, it would've
been very hard to survive,

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and we put that in our bulletins
as our main communication mechanism

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afterwards to make that
really clear.

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RAYMOND: The whole area
where tourists walk

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RAYMOND: The whole area
when they visit the island

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when they visit the island

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was inundated with the deposits
when they visit the island

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was inundated with the deposits
of that explosive eruption.

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And that, of course, should
immediately have raised an alert

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that it's a dangerous place
to allow people to walk.

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that it's a dangerous place
My personal point of view

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My personal point of view

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is they should have
My personal point of view

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is they should have
stopped tourist activities,

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particularly in terms of
landing on the island.

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Late last year, the volcanic
activity on the island increased.

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On December 3, the government body
that monitors White Island said:

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GRAHAM: We had raised
the alert level to Level Two.

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That's the highest level it can
be at when it's not erupting.

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That's because we could see tremor
in the volcano

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That's because we could see tremor
increasing over those months.

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increasing over those months.

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We could also see some increases
increasing over those months.

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We could also see some increases
in that gas that we're monitoring

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We could also see some increases
at the volcano,

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at the volcano,

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indicating that unrest was up.

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Level Two
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that you'll therefore
get an explosive eruption.

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You often do,
because things escalate,

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but sometimes everything settles
down and remains at Level Two.

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TOM: We've gone out there before
on a Level Two plenty of times,

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TOM: We've gone out there before
and it's done nothing.

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and it's done nothing.

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It would quite often change
from a Level Two to a Level One.

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But a Level Two
and a Level One is...

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..it's more dangerous
driving on a road, probably,
But a Level Two
and a Level One is...

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..it's more dangerous
driving on a road, probably,

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than being out there, you know?
driving on a road, probably,

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than being out there, you know?

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than being out there, you know?
Do you think if Gavin had known
that there was a Level Two risk,

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Do you think if Gavin had known
that there was a Level Two risk,

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Do you think if Gavin had known
he wouldn't have gone?

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he wouldn't have gone?

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I'm pretty well sure
he wouldn't have.
he wouldn't have gone?

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I'm pretty well sure
he wouldn't have.

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I'm almost certain,
he wouldn't have.

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I'm almost certain,

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I'm almost certain,
to risk Zoe and Lisa to any danger,

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because he wouldn't have wanted
to risk Zoe and Lisa to any danger,

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because he wouldn't have wanted
to risk Zoe and Lisa to any danger,
let alone himself.

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let alone himself.

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So, I'm quite sure
that if there was a danger,

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he wouldn't have gone.

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On the morning of December 9,

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several tour groups
were heading to White Island.

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New Zealand residents Geoff Hopkins
and his daughter Lillani

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New Zealand residents Geoff Hopkins
drove to Whakatane,

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drove to Whakatane,

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the launch point
for tours to the volcano.

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MAN: We were really excited
about going.

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We knew that we had
a great day ahead of ourselves,

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and we were really
looking forward to it.

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It's something I've always
been real interested in,

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and Dad went when
he was a lot younger.
It's something I've always
been real interested in,

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and Dad went when
he was a lot younger.

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So, it was, for me,
something that was real cool

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for us to do together.

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Their trip, due to leave at 10am,

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was run by a well-known group
called White Island Tours,

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which was the only operator
taking people to the island by boat.

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We checked in, read a disclaimer,
signed in,

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gave our next of kin details, etc.
We checked in, read a disclaimer,
signed in,

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gave our next of kin details, etc.

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Received a boarding pass,
which was a metal cone,

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Received a boarding pass,
which was a metal cone,
and then from there just crossed
the road and waited by the boat

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and then from there just crossed
the road and waited by the boat

233
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and then from there just crossed
for the crew to start loading.

234
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for the crew to start loading.

235
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Geoff and Lillani
can be seen here on the wharf,

236
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waiting to get on the White Island
Tours boat, the Phoenix.

237
00:11:01,384 --> 00:11:05,384
The video was filmed by Brazilian
tourist Allessandro Kauffmann.

238
00:11:07,784 --> 00:11:14,904
Yeah, we just take the camera
and just film everything, you know?

239
00:11:14,904 --> 00:11:18,664
Like a blog or a vlog,
and like this.

240
00:11:21,824 --> 00:11:25,264
Allessandro was on the tour
with his wife, Aline.

241
00:11:30,824 --> 00:11:36,664
Yeah. It was just excitement
to get there and to see how it is.

242
00:11:42,304 --> 00:11:46,144
MAN: The last operation was 1933...

243
00:11:46,144 --> 00:11:50,184
ALLESSANDRO: We can see the White
Island so far as well.

244
00:11:50,184 --> 00:11:53,144
It's huge. It's amazing.

245
00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:08,264
LILLANI: When we first
got on the island,

246
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there was a brief safety briefing,

247
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and it was very, very brief.

248
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It was just, "Don't touch anything,
don't take anything,
and it was very, very brief.

249
00:12:12,984 --> 00:12:16,264
It was just, "Don't touch anything,
don't take anything,

250
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"stay on the path, and
stay in between the tour guides."

251
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"stay on the path, and
stay in between the tour guides."
That was kind of about it.

252
00:12:20,464 --> 00:12:22,104
That was kind of about it.

253
00:12:23,304 --> 00:12:28,504
What were you told about what to do
in the event of an eruption?

254
00:12:28,504 --> 00:12:31,464
GEOFF: There was no safety briefing
about what to do in an eruption.

255
00:12:31,464 --> 00:12:34,744
Lillani and I talked with the guide
a little while later,

256
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Lillani and I talked with the guide
as we were on our tour.

257
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as we were on our tour.

258
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And then we talked
a little bit about eruptions

259
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and what to do in eruptions.

260
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So, it wasn't to the group,
it was just between the three of us.

261
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Had they explained to you at all
what to do

262
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if there was some sort of incident
like an eruption?

263
00:12:55,504 --> 00:12:57,904
I don't really remember that.

264
00:12:57,904 --> 00:12:58,144
So, I don't remember
I don't really remember that.

265
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So, I don't remember
an explanation about it.

266
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Allessandro kept filming

267
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as the tour guide warned about
Allessandro kept filming

268
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as the tour guide warned about
getting too close to the steam.

269
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GEOFF: The tour really just took us
up on a meandering path

270
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up to the crater, past various
sulphur deposits and vents, etc.

271
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It's very rugged and grey,
as rocks are,

272
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It's very rugged and grey,
but then that's intermingled

273
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but then that's intermingled

274
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with the beautiful yellows
of sulphur crystals, whites,

275
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and then some of the streams
that have got green and brown

276
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and red algae.

277
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The walking track
crossed a shallow creek.

278
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The group hiked towards the crater
lake, the highlight of the tour,

279
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The group hiked towards the crater
right in the centre of the island.

280
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right in the centre of the island.

281
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We talked about the crater lake.

282
00:14:24,704 --> 00:14:28,264
It's not excessively hot,
but highly acidic.

283
00:14:28,264 --> 00:14:31,704
And it was always steaming,
but there was a bit of wind about

284
00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:31,944
And it was always steaming,
and as the wind blew the steam,

285
00:14:31,944 --> 00:14:33,464
and as the wind blew the steam,

286
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every now and again
and as the wind blew the steam,

287
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every now and again
you could get a glimpse of the lake.

288
00:14:40,984 --> 00:14:45,064
Did you feel at any point
like there was a risk

289
00:14:45,064 --> 00:14:46,424
that the volcano could erupt?

290
00:14:46,424 --> 00:14:46,624
Yeah, sure. I think all the time.
that the volcano could erupt?

291
00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:48,864
Yeah, sure. I think all the time.

292
00:14:48,864 --> 00:14:51,464
All the time, I think...

293
00:14:53,384 --> 00:14:55,784
..there's risk, you know.

294
00:14:56,864 --> 00:14:59,704
But you have a risk about
everything, you know?

295
00:14:59,704 --> 00:15:01,504
When you walk to the street

296
00:15:01,504 --> 00:15:05,464
or when you take your car
to go somewhere.

297
00:15:05,464 --> 00:15:05,704
or when you take your car
Everything you've got a risk.

298
00:15:05,704 --> 00:15:08,064
Everything you've got a risk.

299
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While they were there,
Lillani photographed a helicopter

300
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run by Volcanic Air
landing on the island

301
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run by Volcanic Air
with a pilot and four passengers.

302
00:15:15,104 --> 00:15:17,344
with a pilot and four passengers.

303
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As their group made its way
back to the boat,

304
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they passed the ruins of
an old sulphur factory

305
00:15:24,864 --> 00:15:25,104
they passed the ruins of
and Allessandro checked his watch.

306
00:15:25,104 --> 00:15:28,024
and Allessandro checked his watch.

307
00:15:28,024 --> 00:15:30,744
It was 11 minutes to 2.

308
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22 minutes before the eruption.

309
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GEOFF: We weren't in any hurry
to get back onto the boat.

310
00:15:36,984 --> 00:15:39,984
People had started to load
on the inflatable.

311
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We knew there was another tour
on the island

312
00:15:43,144 --> 00:15:46,184
because their boat
was anchored in the bay as well.

313
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As Allessandro headed back
to the jetty,

314
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he filmed another White Island Tours
boat anchored in the bay.

315
00:15:55,744 --> 00:16:00,304
It had brought 38 passengers
from the Ovation of the Seas,

316
00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:03,144
including Gavin Dallow,
his wife, Lisa,

317
00:16:03,144 --> 00:16:03,384
including Gavin Dallow,
and her daughter, Zoe.

318
00:16:03,384 --> 00:16:05,144
and her daughter, Zoe.

319
00:16:05,144 --> 00:16:09,944
Among their tour guides
were Tipene Maangi, Kelsey Waghorn,

320
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Among their tour guides
and Hayden Marshall-Inman.

321
00:16:10,184 --> 00:16:12,144
and Hayden Marshall-Inman.

322
00:16:12,144 --> 00:16:12,384
MAN: He'd been
and Hayden Marshall-Inman.

323
00:16:12,384 --> 00:16:15,424
MAN: He'd been
with White Island Tours 10 years,

324
00:16:15,424 --> 00:16:15,664
MAN: He'd been
and he started as a guide.

325
00:16:15,664 --> 00:16:17,424
and he started as a guide.

326
00:16:17,424 --> 00:16:19,104
And he enjoyed people.

327
00:16:19,104 --> 00:16:20,504
His passion for people was huge,

328
00:16:20,504 --> 00:16:23,864
and his passion for the outdoors,
and the ocean, was massive.

329
00:16:23,864 --> 00:16:24,144
So, for him to fit into a job
where he could get all of the above
and his passion for the outdoors,
and the ocean, was massive.

330
00:16:24,144 --> 00:16:27,824
So, for him to fit into a job
where he could get all of the above

331
00:16:27,824 --> 00:16:30,424
was like the perfect
opportunity for him.

332
00:16:32,304 --> 00:16:34,544
As the group from the Phoenix
left the island,

333
00:16:34,544 --> 00:16:39,824
they took some final photos
looking up towards the crater lake.

334
00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:42,824
GEOFF: At one point the captain
said over the tannoy,

335
00:16:42,824 --> 00:16:43,064
GEOFF: At one point the captain
"If you look in the distance,

336
00:16:43,064 --> 00:16:44,384
"If you look in the distance,

337
00:16:44,384 --> 00:16:46,984
"right against the steam cloud
of the crater lake,

338
00:16:46,984 --> 00:16:47,224
"right against the steam cloud
"you can see some dots,"

339
00:16:47,224 --> 00:16:48,704
"you can see some dots,"

340
00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:48,944
and those dots
"you can see some dots,"

341
00:16:48,944 --> 00:16:51,744
and those dots
were the other tour party.

342
00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:51,984
and those dots
So, he pointed them out.

343
00:16:51,984 --> 00:16:52,824
So, he pointed them out.

344
00:16:52,824 --> 00:16:54,344
There were people
up there on the crater lake.

345
00:16:54,344 --> 00:16:54,584
What's unique about that crater
There were people
up there on the crater lake.

346
00:16:54,584 --> 00:16:56,224
What's unique about that crater

347
00:16:56,224 --> 00:17:00,544
is that it's an amphitheatre-shaped
crater with very steep sides,

348
00:17:00,544 --> 00:17:04,424
so you're totally enclosed
within a confined space

349
00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:09,144
with nowhere to escape
should an event suddenly occur.

350
00:17:12,984 --> 00:17:16,064
At 2:11pm, the Phoenix
and its passengers

351
00:17:16,064 --> 00:17:20,784
were about to head back to the
mainland when the volcano erupted.

352
00:17:23,384 --> 00:17:24,704
MAN: Oh, my God.

353
00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:27,904
Oh, my God.

354
00:17:27,904 --> 00:17:28,144
GEOFF: As I turned around, I could
Oh, my God.

355
00:17:28,144 --> 00:17:32,424
GEOFF: As I turned around, I could
see over the top of the canopy,

356
00:17:32,424 --> 00:17:36,224
as I looked up,
just this enormous cloud of...

357
00:17:36,224 --> 00:17:39,384
..black and bright white
steam and ash.

358
00:17:41,904 --> 00:17:45,504
Quite beautiful, but just towering,
I don't know,

359
00:17:45,504 --> 00:17:48,024
a few hundred metres
up into the sky.

360
00:17:48,024 --> 00:17:48,304
And instantly I knew
it was erupting,
a few hundred metres
up into the sky.

361
00:17:48,304 --> 00:17:52,584
And instantly I knew
it was erupting,

362
00:17:52,584 --> 00:17:54,384
but just in that second

363
00:17:54,384 --> 00:17:54,624
but just in that second
there was just something
that was quite beautiful about it.

364
00:17:54,624 --> 00:17:57,824
there was just something
that was quite beautiful about it.

365
00:18:01,344 --> 00:18:04,024
These first pictures
were filmed by the passengers

366
00:18:04,024 --> 00:18:06,584
as their boat headed away
from the island.

367
00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:17,864
GRAHAM: The eruption was short.
It only lasted a minute to two.

368
00:18:17,864 --> 00:18:19,624
It was a steam eruption.

369
00:18:19,624 --> 00:18:23,584
The key thing with these steam
eruptions is they're unpredictable.

370
00:18:23,584 --> 00:18:27,904
It generated a column of ash
and hot water and steam straight up,

371
00:18:27,904 --> 00:18:31,664
and then led into a surge of
hot steam and ash

372
00:18:31,664 --> 00:18:31,904
and then led into a surge of
moving outwards across the ground.

373
00:18:31,904 --> 00:18:33,784
moving outwards across the ground.

374
00:18:33,784 --> 00:18:36,544
It also looks like it had
some flying rocks -

375
00:18:36,544 --> 00:18:38,784
some...what we call ballistics -
coming through the air as well.

376
00:18:40,784 --> 00:18:43,464
The system that exploded,
the hydrothermal system,

377
00:18:43,464 --> 00:18:46,784
would've been at 200 or 300 degrees
or more.

378
00:18:46,784 --> 00:18:47,064
would've been at 200 or 300 degrees
or more.
There was no opportunity to provide
the tourists with a warning

379
00:18:47,064 --> 00:18:51,824
There was no opportunity to provide
the tourists with a warning

380
00:18:51,824 --> 00:18:54,544
that there was
an impending eruption,

381
00:18:54,544 --> 00:18:59,624
and given that the debris
is flying through the air

382
00:18:59,624 --> 00:19:03,424
at speeds of up to
100 metres per second,

383
00:19:03,424 --> 00:19:06,824
that means that people
would have had no warning

384
00:19:06,824 --> 00:19:10,024
and no opportunity, really,
to seek any safety.

385
00:19:10,024 --> 00:19:10,264
and no opportunity, really,
Go, go, go, go, go.

386
00:19:10,264 --> 00:19:12,824
Go, go, go, go, go.

387
00:19:12,824 --> 00:19:13,944
Jesus.

388
00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:17,144
On the Phoenix,
awe quickly turned to horror.

389
00:19:17,144 --> 00:19:17,384
On the Phoenix,
Go inside!

390
00:19:17,384 --> 00:19:18,864
Go inside!

391
00:19:18,864 --> 00:19:20,504
Go inside! Go inside!

392
00:19:20,504 --> 00:19:20,744
Go inside!
Go inside! Go inside!

393
00:19:20,744 --> 00:19:24,384
Go inside!
(OVER PA) Everybody inside now.

394
00:19:24,384 --> 00:19:29,304
We were outside,
in the back of the boat,

395
00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:33,904
and I just told the people outside
just go inside

396
00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:39,184
because I know that
the clouds come to us.

397
00:19:46,464 --> 00:19:52,464
GEOFF: There was a rolling ash cloud
that came up to the top of a cliff,

398
00:19:52,464 --> 00:19:52,704
GEOFF: There was a rolling ash cloud
and as it tumbled over the cliff,

399
00:19:52,704 --> 00:19:54,944
and as it tumbled over the cliff,

400
00:19:54,944 --> 00:19:56,664
and as it tumbled down to the cliff,

401
00:19:56,664 --> 00:20:01,184
it kind of came out
and started to come out to the sea.

402
00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:05,064
That completely obscured
the whole island.

403
00:20:05,064 --> 00:20:07,064
I'd never seen anything like it.

404
00:20:07,064 --> 00:20:12,384
But at that point
there was definitely a shift of,

405
00:20:12,384 --> 00:20:12,624
But at that point
I guess, shock and horror.

406
00:20:12,624 --> 00:20:14,224
I guess, shock and horror.

407
00:20:14,224 --> 00:20:17,024
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

408
00:20:17,024 --> 00:20:17,264
WOMAN: Were there people
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

409
00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:19,544
WOMAN: Were there people
still on the island?

410
00:20:27,664 --> 00:20:31,904
Man. I'm shocked at how... Look.

411
00:20:31,904 --> 00:20:33,624
Everybody sat down.

412
00:20:33,624 --> 00:20:40,184
And I think at that stage was when
reality was really kicking in,

413
00:20:40,184 --> 00:20:43,024
that we knew there were
other people on the island.

414
00:20:44,504 --> 00:20:49,144
47 people, including 38 passengers
from the Ovation of the Seas,

415
00:20:49,144 --> 00:20:49,384
47 people, including 38 passengers
were still on the island.

416
00:20:49,384 --> 00:20:51,704
were still on the island.

417
00:20:51,704 --> 00:20:53,344
After escaping the ash cloud,

418
00:20:53,344 --> 00:20:53,584
the captain of the Phoenix
After escaping the ash cloud,

419
00:20:53,584 --> 00:20:56,784
the captain of the Phoenix
turned back to the jetty to help.

420
00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:57,024
the captain of the Phoenix
Look at the boat!

421
00:20:57,024 --> 00:20:58,104
Look at the boat!

422
00:20:58,104 --> 00:21:00,024
WOMAN: Oh, my God,
there are people there!

423
00:21:00,024 --> 00:21:00,264
WOMAN: Oh, my God,
Oh, no.

424
00:21:00,264 --> 00:21:01,784
Oh, no.

425
00:21:03,944 --> 00:21:06,344
Oh, my God.

426
00:21:06,344 --> 00:21:10,424
The island was now
just monotone grey.

427
00:21:10,424 --> 00:21:11,784
There was no colour to it at all.

428
00:21:11,784 --> 00:21:15,384
It was if someone had taken
a can of undercoat spray

429
00:21:15,384 --> 00:21:15,624
It was if someone had taken
and just sprayed everything.

430
00:21:15,624 --> 00:21:17,464
and just sprayed everything.

431
00:21:17,464 --> 00:21:21,584
The other tour group's boat
that was anchored,

432
00:21:21,584 --> 00:21:24,904
again was completely,
and perfectly evenly,

433
00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:25,144
again was completely,
covered in ash.

434
00:21:25,144 --> 00:21:26,864
covered in ash.

435
00:21:35,584 --> 00:21:39,344
The first thing I could see
was one person in the water

436
00:21:39,344 --> 00:21:39,584
The first thing I could see
was one person in the water
swimming out to that boat.

437
00:21:39,584 --> 00:21:42,144
swimming out to that boat.

438
00:21:42,144 --> 00:21:44,184
And then I could see
another person swimming,

439
00:21:44,184 --> 00:21:44,424
And then I could see
and then I saw a third person.

440
00:21:44,424 --> 00:21:46,184
and then I saw a third person.

441
00:21:46,184 --> 00:21:46,424
And then I could see others that
and then I saw a third person.

442
00:21:46,424 --> 00:21:50,704
And then I could see others that
were gathered around the jetty

443
00:21:50,704 --> 00:21:54,624
where we'd got on and off from,
where we'd landed on the island.

444
00:21:57,304 --> 00:21:59,824
MAN: Look at the helicopter there.
Oh.

445
00:21:59,824 --> 00:22:00,064
MAN: Look at the helicopter there.
WOMAN: Oh, my God.

446
00:22:00,064 --> 00:22:01,984
WOMAN: Oh, my God.

447
00:22:01,984 --> 00:22:03,424
The next thing they saw

448
00:22:03,424 --> 00:22:06,224
was the mangled Volcanic Air
helicopter

449
00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:08,744
that had been blown off
its landing pad.

450
00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:12,264
GEOFF: The helicopter
was just looking crippled

451
00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:12,504
GEOFF: The helicopter
with its broken rotors.

452
00:22:12,504 --> 00:22:14,304
with its broken rotors.

453
00:22:14,304 --> 00:22:15,464
Come on, guys.

454
00:22:15,464 --> 00:22:20,944
And at that stage, the crew had
lowered the inflatable boat,

455
00:22:20,944 --> 00:22:23,984
and they'd started a rescue mission
to pick people up.

456
00:22:25,664 --> 00:22:29,384
LILLANI: One of the tour guides that
I had spoken quite closely with,

457
00:22:29,384 --> 00:22:31,904
she came in to get
some first aid kits,

458
00:22:31,904 --> 00:22:35,064
and me and Dad went up and
asked her if she needed help,

459
00:22:35,064 --> 00:22:37,104
because we both have
our first aid certificates.

460
00:22:37,104 --> 00:22:39,344
And she said that she needed
all the help she can get.

461
00:22:39,344 --> 00:22:39,584
And she said that she needed
all the help she can get.
She's got multiple burn victims.

462
00:22:39,584 --> 00:22:40,984
She's got multiple burn victims.

463
00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:47,704
As injured survivors
were brought onto the Phoenix,

464
00:22:47,704 --> 00:22:51,184
the crew asked passengers
not to film.

465
00:22:51,184 --> 00:22:54,624
ALINE: When the first people
got to the boat,

466
00:22:54,624 --> 00:22:58,104
like, most of them
was really, really hurt.

467
00:22:58,104 --> 00:22:58,384
We started to help them
to clean that ash,
like, most of them
was really, really hurt.

468
00:22:58,384 --> 00:23:01,704
We started to help them
to clean that ash,

469
00:23:01,704 --> 00:23:05,544
and they were feeling pain,
much pain.

470
00:23:05,544 --> 00:23:05,784
and they were feeling pain,
much pain.
Some people was quiet, very quiet.

471
00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:09,584
Some people was quiet, very quiet.

472
00:23:09,584 --> 00:23:12,064
Some people was screaming.

473
00:23:12,064 --> 00:23:14,104
Some people was crying.

474
00:23:20,864 --> 00:23:23,384
GEOFF: First thing that I saw

475
00:23:23,384 --> 00:23:28,184
was a survivor
came on the back of the boat

476
00:23:28,184 --> 00:23:28,424
was a survivor
and she was just burnt

477
00:23:28,424 --> 00:23:33,104
and she was just burnt

478
00:23:33,104 --> 00:23:36,144
like I've never seen burns before.

479
00:23:36,144 --> 00:23:40,664
Some were just in
T-shirts and shorts,

480
00:23:40,664 --> 00:23:44,464
so their whole arms were burnt,
or their legs were burnt.

481
00:23:44,464 --> 00:23:48,464
And really, all we could do was just
try and cool them with fresh water.

482
00:23:53,904 --> 00:23:55,664
LILLANI: A lot of them
had lost skin.

483
00:23:55,664 --> 00:23:58,504
so put clothing over it
to act as skin,

484
00:23:58,504 --> 00:24:00,384
and then we'd pour water
onto that clothing.

485
00:24:01,664 --> 00:24:05,024
And then once we had, I guess,
cooled people's burns,

486
00:24:05,024 --> 00:24:07,584
I cleared eyes and airways.

487
00:24:07,584 --> 00:24:09,504
People had ash in their mouths.

488
00:24:09,504 --> 00:24:11,664
It was a case of keeping people

489
00:24:11,664 --> 00:24:13,864
from going in and out
of consciousness,

490
00:24:13,864 --> 00:24:15,144
people going in shock.

491
00:24:16,584 --> 00:24:20,264
One of the first people brought
onboard was Kelsey Waghorn,

492
00:24:20,264 --> 00:24:25,304
the White Island tours guide,
who survived with terrible burns.

493
00:24:25,304 --> 00:24:29,264
She had severe burns to her hands,
her arms, her legs,

494
00:24:29,264 --> 00:24:29,504
She had severe burns to her hands,
due to, I guess, her clothing,.

495
00:24:29,504 --> 00:24:31,424
due to, I guess, her clothing,.

496
00:24:31,424 --> 00:24:35,584
Quite a few people that had very,
I guess, protective clothing on

497
00:24:35,584 --> 00:24:39,304
were mostly just burnt
on their faces and their hands,

498
00:24:39,304 --> 00:24:39,544
were mostly just burnt
which were not as severe

499
00:24:39,544 --> 00:24:41,784
which were not as severe

500
00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:45,584
as those that had burns
over their whole body.

501
00:24:45,584 --> 00:24:49,104
The most severe burns
were ones that had no skin left.

502
00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:51,784
It would just...
kind of dripped off them like wax.

503
00:24:51,784 --> 00:24:56,144
And that's something that
I never thought I'd ever see,

504
00:24:56,144 --> 00:24:58,304
and something I hope
I never have to see again.

505
00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:03,904
With more than 20 victims
loaded onboard,

506
00:25:03,904 --> 00:25:04,144
With more than 20 victims
the Phoenix quickly became crowded.

507
00:25:04,144 --> 00:25:05,824
the Phoenix quickly became crowded.

508
00:25:07,184 --> 00:25:09,424
GEOFF: I ended up
at the front of the boat

509
00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:12,104
with six of the most critical.

510
00:25:12,104 --> 00:25:16,504
And these were laid out on the
floor, in and out of consciousness,

511
00:25:16,504 --> 00:25:20,464
eyes shut, not really
making any sound at all,

512
00:25:20,464 --> 00:25:20,744
as opposed to, I guess,
the ones at the back
eyes shut, not really
making any sound at all,

513
00:25:20,744 --> 00:25:23,304
as opposed to, I guess,
the ones at the back

514
00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:23,544
as opposed to, I guess,
which were more screaming, crying.

515
00:25:23,544 --> 00:25:26,944
which were more screaming, crying.

516
00:25:26,944 --> 00:25:27,184
which were more screaming, crying.
And there was a real mixture
in there.

517
00:25:27,184 --> 00:25:28,984
And there was a real mixture
in there.

518
00:25:31,144 --> 00:25:34,864
Geoff was on the front of the boat
with American Lauren Urey.

519
00:25:34,864 --> 00:25:38,264
She was on her honeymoon
with her husband, Matthew.

520
00:25:38,264 --> 00:25:41,544
They were both seriously injured,
but survived.

521
00:25:41,544 --> 00:25:41,784
They were both seriously injured,
She was in so much pain.

522
00:25:41,784 --> 00:25:43,704
She was in so much pain.

523
00:25:43,704 --> 00:25:47,744
She was burnt pretty much
across most of her body.

524
00:25:47,744 --> 00:25:52,064
She was then starting to drift
in and out of consciousness.

525
00:25:52,064 --> 00:25:52,304
She was then starting to drift
She really became my sole focus.

526
00:25:52,304 --> 00:25:55,104
She really became my sole focus.

527
00:25:55,104 --> 00:25:59,184
She asked me not to leave her,
and I promised I wouldn't,

528
00:25:59,184 --> 00:26:03,744
and that became...I wasn't
going to break that promise.

529
00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:05,144
That's where I stayed.

530
00:26:10,824 --> 00:26:13,784
ALINE: There are the moments that
everyone was feeling so cold.

531
00:26:13,784 --> 00:26:16,784
I gave all of the clothes,
the tops, the jackets we could

532
00:26:16,784 --> 00:26:17,024
I gave all of the clothes,
to keep them warm.

533
00:26:17,024 --> 00:26:18,424
to keep them warm.

534
00:26:18,424 --> 00:26:18,664
But there was a moment
that it wasn't enough.
to keep them warm.

535
00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,944
But there was a moment
that it wasn't enough.

536
00:26:21,864 --> 00:26:24,584
It wasn't enough.
They were feeling so cold.

537
00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:24,824
It wasn't enough.
They were feeling so cold.
They were losing temperature.

538
00:26:24,824 --> 00:26:26,584
They were losing temperature.

539
00:26:27,864 --> 00:26:30,624
So, what we could do was hug them,

540
00:26:30,624 --> 00:26:35,904
trying to warm up
with our arms and their body.

541
00:26:37,544 --> 00:26:43,944
And I think it may
make them alive maybe.

542
00:26:45,664 --> 00:26:47,384
Another victim
brought onto the Phoenix

543
00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:51,224
was 72-year-old Australian man
John Cozad,

544
00:26:51,224 --> 00:26:53,944
who'd been on the volcano tour
with his son, Chris.

545
00:26:56,424 --> 00:26:59,024
ALINE: I remember this elderly guy,

546
00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:02,544
and he was really worried
with his son.

547
00:27:02,544 --> 00:27:04,784
He was the person
who was most worried about.

548
00:27:04,784 --> 00:27:05,024
He was the person
He was feeling cold,

549
00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,744
He was feeling cold,

550
00:27:07,744 --> 00:27:11,224
and he was starting to get purple

551
00:27:11,224 --> 00:27:13,824
and really, really quiet.

552
00:27:13,824 --> 00:27:16,024
I was so worried, I just hug him...

553
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,704
..and gave him what I could do
at that moment.

554
00:27:20,704 --> 00:27:22,664
Till we got the coast, I did it.

555
00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:29,264
And I saw after
he was coming back, his colour.

556
00:27:29,264 --> 00:27:30,744
I think it helped.

557
00:27:32,144 --> 00:27:36,464
John survived, but his son Chris
died later in hospital.

558
00:27:38,704 --> 00:27:43,344
It seemed like eternity
to get the coast again

559
00:27:43,344 --> 00:27:43,584
It seemed like eternity
because it was really far.

560
00:27:43,584 --> 00:27:45,504
because it was really far.

561
00:27:45,504 --> 00:27:47,024
The island's far from the coast.

562
00:27:49,864 --> 00:27:52,104
People on the mainland
saw the eruption

563
00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:55,664
but they had no idea
the horror that was unfolding.

564
00:27:57,024 --> 00:27:59,944
Tour guide Hayden Marshall-Inman's
brother Mark

565
00:27:59,944 --> 00:28:00,184
Tour guide Hayden Marshall-Inman's
could see the volcano from his home.

566
00:28:00,184 --> 00:28:02,424
could see the volcano from his home.

567
00:28:02,424 --> 00:28:05,184
I think the first contact
I had was from my wife

568
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,424
and she could see some smoke.

569
00:28:06,424 --> 00:28:08,104
She said, "What's going on?
Is that White Island?"

570
00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:08,344
She said, "What's going on?
I said, "What do you mean?"

571
00:28:08,344 --> 00:28:09,184
I said, "What do you mean?"

572
00:28:09,184 --> 00:28:10,944
She said, "I can see smoke.
Is that White?"

573
00:28:10,944 --> 00:28:12,864
And I said,
"Oh, I'll have a quick look."

574
00:28:12,864 --> 00:28:13,144
I made a few phone calls,
firstly to my dad, if he's...
And I said,
"Oh, I'll have a quick look."

575
00:28:13,144 --> 00:28:16,704
I made a few phone calls,
firstly to my dad, if he's...

576
00:28:16,704 --> 00:28:16,944
I made a few phone calls,
"Did Hayden go to work today?"

577
00:28:16,944 --> 00:28:18,104
"Did Hayden go to work today?"

578
00:28:18,104 --> 00:28:18,344
was one of the first things,
"Did Hayden go to work today?"

579
00:28:18,344 --> 00:28:19,784
was one of the first things,
you know.

580
00:28:19,784 --> 00:28:20,064
was one of the first things,
you know.
When we both
couldn't get hold of him,

581
00:28:20,064 --> 00:28:21,824
When we both
couldn't get hold of him,

582
00:28:21,824 --> 00:28:22,064
When we both
uh...we just made the assumption

583
00:28:22,064 --> 00:28:25,104
uh...we just made the assumption

584
00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:26,864
that he had gone, which he had.

585
00:28:26,864 --> 00:28:27,104
He'd gone as a guide,
that he had gone, which he had.

586
00:28:27,104 --> 00:28:29,744
He'd gone as a guide,
rather than a skipper this day.

587
00:28:37,144 --> 00:28:39,064
As news of the eruption spread,

588
00:28:39,064 --> 00:28:40,464
a group of helicopter pilots

589
00:28:40,464 --> 00:28:43,064
who regularly took visitors
to White Island

590
00:28:43,064 --> 00:28:45,864
launched a remarkable
rescue operation.

591
00:28:45,864 --> 00:28:46,104
launched a remarkable
TOM: It was about quarter past two.

592
00:28:46,104 --> 00:28:47,624
TOM: It was about quarter past two.

593
00:28:47,624 --> 00:28:47,864
My phone rung and another pilot,
Luke Lamont, who works out at Kahu
TOM: It was about quarter past two.

594
00:28:47,864 --> 00:28:52,264
My phone rung and another pilot,
Luke Lamont, who works out at Kahu

595
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:55,344
rung me and said the island
looked like it was blowing up.

596
00:28:58,464 --> 00:29:01,264
I didn't know if anyone
was on the island.

597
00:29:01,264 --> 00:29:03,584
I just decided I was going to be
more help back at the hangar

598
00:29:03,584 --> 00:29:05,424
if there was anything
I could do to help.

599
00:29:09,704 --> 00:29:12,944
Tom's boss, Mark Law,
jumped in one helicopter.

600
00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:19,304
Tom and another pilot,
Jason Hill, got into another.

601
00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:25,504
We were just going there hoping
that we're going to find everyone

602
00:29:25,504 --> 00:29:25,744
We were just going there hoping
taking photos of it, safe and sound.

603
00:29:25,744 --> 00:29:27,984
taking photos of it, safe and sound.

604
00:29:33,584 --> 00:29:38,304
In nearby Rotorua, Volcanic Air
pilot Tim Barrow was in his hangar

605
00:29:38,304 --> 00:29:38,544
In nearby Rotorua, Volcanic Air
when he heard about the eruption.

606
00:29:38,544 --> 00:29:40,784
when he heard about the eruption.

607
00:29:43,064 --> 00:29:47,344
And I grabbed the first aircraft
that was ready to fly, basically,

608
00:29:47,344 --> 00:29:50,624
and one of my guys,
and we got airborne.

609
00:29:50,624 --> 00:29:50,904
There was no second-guessing,
no hesitation.
and one of my guys,
and we got airborne.

610
00:29:50,904 --> 00:29:52,464
There was no second-guessing,
no hesitation.

611
00:29:52,464 --> 00:29:56,464
It was as simple as going
and getting the job done

612
00:29:56,464 --> 00:29:57,864
to the best of our ability.

613
00:29:59,304 --> 00:30:01,584
They didn't know it
as they flew out there,

614
00:30:01,584 --> 00:30:05,584
but there were 20 people still
on the island, some badly injured,

615
00:30:05,584 --> 00:30:05,824
but there were 20 people still
others already dead.

616
00:30:05,824 --> 00:30:07,544
others already dead.

617
00:30:08,824 --> 00:30:10,584
I suppose my first recollection

618
00:30:10,584 --> 00:30:10,824
was the view that I got
I suppose my first recollection

619
00:30:10,824 --> 00:30:14,064
was the view that I got
from the advantage of being high,

620
00:30:14,064 --> 00:30:16,304
you know, being able to look down
into the crater

621
00:30:16,304 --> 00:30:16,544
you know, being able to look down
and seeing the steam and the ash.

622
00:30:16,544 --> 00:30:18,424
and seeing the steam and the ash.

623
00:30:20,424 --> 00:30:24,304
We landed behind that helicopter
that was blown off the pad.

624
00:30:24,304 --> 00:30:27,344
It was at that point there, that
me and Jase looked at each other

625
00:30:27,344 --> 00:30:30,864
and realised that must've been
quite a significant force

626
00:30:30,864 --> 00:30:33,384
to push that helicopter
off that pad that far

627
00:30:33,384 --> 00:30:33,624
to push that helicopter
and do the damage it had done.

628
00:30:33,624 --> 00:30:35,624
and do the damage it had done.

629
00:30:35,624 --> 00:30:35,864
So that was really when it hit
that, yeah,
and do the damage it had done.

630
00:30:35,864 --> 00:30:38,824
So that was really when it hit
that, yeah,

631
00:30:38,824 --> 00:30:40,544
this has been quite a serious event.

632
00:30:43,584 --> 00:30:46,784
Mark grabbed us
and gave us a plan to do.

633
00:30:46,784 --> 00:30:49,344
So pretty much said, "Alright guys,
we've got some victims.

634
00:30:49,344 --> 00:30:50,624
"They're in this vicinity.

635
00:30:50,624 --> 00:30:53,104
"There is a range
of different injuries.

636
00:30:53,104 --> 00:30:54,784
"We'll go there and just help them

637
00:30:54,784 --> 00:30:55,024
"as much as we can
"We'll go there and just help them

638
00:30:55,024 --> 00:30:57,264
"as much as we can
till help arrives."

639
00:30:57,264 --> 00:31:02,104
So, we got to the victims,
started helping them,

640
00:31:02,104 --> 00:31:04,104
putting on gas masks,
giving them water,

641
00:31:04,104 --> 00:31:05,904
putting them in
the recovery position,

642
00:31:05,904 --> 00:31:07,144
making them as comfortable
as we can.

643
00:31:07,144 --> 00:31:09,024
Just reassuring them
that we are there.

644
00:31:09,024 --> 00:31:11,544
We are there to help and, "We are
going to get you off the island,"

645
00:31:11,544 --> 00:31:13,224
and "You're not alone".

646
00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:18,104
The conditions they were
working in were toxic.

647
00:31:19,464 --> 00:31:22,224
Without a gas mask,
it was really hard to breathe.

648
00:31:22,224 --> 00:31:22,464
Without a gas mask,
Almost impossible to breathe.

649
00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:23,864
Almost impossible to breathe.

650
00:31:23,864 --> 00:31:27,384
Just real sharp sting
in your throat.

651
00:31:27,384 --> 00:31:30,624
And if you got sweat
or anything in your eye -

652
00:31:30,624 --> 00:31:35,184
I was wearing sunglasses out there -
your eyes would start burning.

653
00:31:35,184 --> 00:31:37,784
In some places,
it was kind of a foot-deep of ash,

654
00:31:37,784 --> 00:31:42,944
kind of halfway up to your knee,
that you were running through.

655
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:45,184
And kinda quite eerie
as the volcano,

656
00:31:45,184 --> 00:31:47,064
you could still see
it was still ashing

657
00:31:47,064 --> 00:31:47,304
you could still see
at the time we were out there.

658
00:31:47,304 --> 00:31:48,744
at the time we were out there.

659
00:31:48,744 --> 00:31:50,464
It was still raining ash on us.

660
00:31:52,184 --> 00:31:57,584
The pilots carried a total of
12 people onto three helicopters.

661
00:31:57,584 --> 00:31:57,824
The pilots carried a total of
I know of one person that I carried

662
00:31:57,824 --> 00:32:01,704
I know of one person that I carried

663
00:32:01,704 --> 00:32:03,184
that was alive when I was carrying,

664
00:32:03,184 --> 00:32:05,424
but by the time
I'd got to the helicopter,

665
00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:08,424
I had a suspicion that
they may have passed away.

666
00:32:08,424 --> 00:32:09,704
I told Mark

667
00:32:09,704 --> 00:32:13,624
and Mark said, "We'll just carry on
and just put them in there."

668
00:32:15,784 --> 00:32:19,824
Obviously, I felt hugely concerned
for the two survivors

669
00:32:19,824 --> 00:32:21,264
that we had on board.

670
00:32:21,264 --> 00:32:22,704
They weren't in good shape.

671
00:32:22,704 --> 00:32:22,944
And I wish I could have
sped that flight up 100 times
They weren't in good shape.

672
00:32:22,944 --> 00:32:26,704
And I wish I could have
sped that flight up 100 times

673
00:32:26,704 --> 00:32:30,984
and had those guys back in
a millisecond, not the time it took.

674
00:32:34,544 --> 00:32:37,224
What condition were they in
when you helped them off the chopper?

675
00:32:37,224 --> 00:32:41,584
One of our passengers sadly
had passed away on the flight back,

676
00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:47,104
and the other one was in a bad way.

677
00:32:47,104 --> 00:32:48,504
Yeah.

678
00:32:53,384 --> 00:32:55,624
Despite the risk of
another eruption,

679
00:32:55,624 --> 00:32:58,984
Tom stayed on the island
to search for more survivors.

680
00:33:00,384 --> 00:33:03,144
As he ran down the creek
towards the sea,

681
00:33:03,144 --> 00:33:06,424
he found the body of tour guide
Hayden Marshall-Inman.

682
00:33:09,104 --> 00:33:11,824
To be honest, it was no surprise
I come across Hayden's body.

683
00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:13,504
If anyone was going to be left
on the island,

684
00:33:13,504 --> 00:33:13,744
If anyone was going to be left
it was going to be Hayden.

685
00:33:13,744 --> 00:33:15,104
it was going to be Hayden.

686
00:33:15,104 --> 00:33:19,904
I ran down to him and
pulled him out of the creek,

687
00:33:19,904 --> 00:33:20,144
I ran down to him and
and just propped him up on a rock.

688
00:33:20,144 --> 00:33:21,624
and just propped him up on a rock.

689
00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:21,864
And, at that stage I thought,
and just propped him up on a rock.

690
00:33:21,864 --> 00:33:24,504
And, at that stage I thought,
"Right, we'll start running around

691
00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:27,424
"and see if we can
find any more people."

692
00:33:29,344 --> 00:33:33,384
Further up the creek, Tom found
the body of another guide,

693
00:33:33,384 --> 00:33:33,624
Further up the creek, Tom found
Tipene Maangi.

694
00:33:33,624 --> 00:33:34,984
Tipene Maangi.

695
00:33:36,344 --> 00:33:40,584
What was pretty obvious is that the
first group of people we had found,

696
00:33:40,584 --> 00:33:43,264
there was already
a first-aid kit there, opened.

697
00:33:43,264 --> 00:33:46,584
So we're 100% certain
that Tipene and Hayden

698
00:33:46,584 --> 00:33:46,824
So we're 100% certain
actually come across that group

699
00:33:46,824 --> 00:33:48,624
actually come across that group

700
00:33:48,624 --> 00:33:48,864
and helped them and started
actually come across that group

701
00:33:48,864 --> 00:33:51,464
and helped them and started
offering them first aid.

702
00:33:51,464 --> 00:33:51,704
and helped them and started
And I think a huge part of us

703
00:33:51,704 --> 00:33:54,704
And I think a huge part of us

704
00:33:54,704 --> 00:33:56,544
being able to find those people
still alive

705
00:33:56,544 --> 00:33:59,824
was because of
those two guys' actions.

706
00:34:01,224 --> 00:34:03,704
There were five other bodies nearby.

707
00:34:05,384 --> 00:34:07,944
I found two girls
that were there at the time.

708
00:34:07,944 --> 00:34:11,024
Unfortunately, they passed away
not long after I'd found them.

709
00:34:11,024 --> 00:34:14,144
So we just made them
comfortable, as we could.

710
00:34:14,144 --> 00:34:17,224
It wasn't till we were coming
back along by the factory

711
00:34:17,224 --> 00:34:20,784
that we found another victim
across the creek from us.

712
00:34:22,184 --> 00:34:25,984
So, we crossed the creek
and went up to that victim.

713
00:34:27,144 --> 00:34:29,024
Unfortunately,
they were passed away.

714
00:34:30,584 --> 00:34:34,864
That was 17-year old teenager
Winona Langford.

715
00:34:34,864 --> 00:34:37,864
She'd been on the tour with
her parents, Kristine and Anthony,

716
00:34:37,864 --> 00:34:38,104
She'd been on the tour with
and brother Jesse.

717
00:34:38,104 --> 00:34:39,344
and brother Jesse.

718
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,984
Only Jesse survived.

719
00:34:45,184 --> 00:34:48,904
Finally search and rescue paramedics
arrived by helicopter

720
00:34:48,904 --> 00:34:49,144
Finally search and rescue paramedics
and landed near the jetty.

721
00:34:49,144 --> 00:34:50,864
and landed near the jetty.

722
00:34:53,584 --> 00:34:55,224
I talked to a medic there,

723
00:34:55,224 --> 00:34:57,704
explained to them
where I'd placed the bodies,

724
00:34:57,704 --> 00:35:00,584
that we had eight victims
that I knew of at the time

725
00:35:00,584 --> 00:35:02,544
that were all deceased.

726
00:35:02,544 --> 00:35:02,784
I didn't know if anyone else
was on the island at that point.
that were all deceased.

727
00:35:02,784 --> 00:35:05,664
I didn't know if anyone else
was on the island at that point.

728
00:35:05,664 --> 00:35:08,904
I could just identify
the eight that we'd come across.

729
00:35:08,904 --> 00:35:11,944
It was at that point
that we were then instructed

730
00:35:11,944 --> 00:35:13,224
to leave the island.

731
00:35:16,384 --> 00:35:19,344
When the injured survivors
arrived at the mainland,

732
00:35:19,344 --> 00:35:22,064
they were met by emergency services.

733
00:35:25,904 --> 00:35:28,784
LILLANI: There was everyone
you could ever have managed.

734
00:35:28,784 --> 00:35:31,544
There were doctors, there were fire,
there were ambulance,

735
00:35:31,544 --> 00:35:32,944
there was coast guard.

736
00:35:32,944 --> 00:35:36,264
They were getting us to help them
with those who were most critical,

737
00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:36,504
and then getting them off the boat.
They were getting us to help them
with those who were most critical,

738
00:35:36,504 --> 00:35:38,424
and then getting them off the boat.

739
00:35:38,424 --> 00:35:38,664
and then getting them off the boat.
the rest were on stretchers.

740
00:35:38,664 --> 00:35:41,464
Those that could walk, were walked,
the rest were on stretchers.

741
00:35:41,464 --> 00:35:41,744
Those that could walk, were walked,
the rest were on stretchers.
Mark Inman was still waiting
for news of his brother Hayden.

742
00:35:41,744 --> 00:35:45,704
Mark Inman was still waiting
for news of his brother Hayden.

743
00:35:47,864 --> 00:35:50,984
MARK: That first boat arrived,
and Hayden wasn't on it.

744
00:35:50,984 --> 00:35:53,264
And obviously, a lot of his friends
are in the crew,

745
00:35:53,264 --> 00:35:53,544
and one of the skippers
actually said
And obviously, a lot of his friends
are in the crew,

746
00:35:53,544 --> 00:35:54,784
and one of the skippers
actually said

747
00:35:54,784 --> 00:35:55,024
and one of the skippers
that Hayden didn't get on the boat.

748
00:35:55,024 --> 00:35:57,264
that Hayden didn't get on the boat.

749
00:35:57,264 --> 00:35:57,504
He's not on the boat.
that Hayden didn't get on the boat.

750
00:35:57,504 --> 00:35:59,144
He's not on the boat.
He's supposed to be on this one.

751
00:35:59,144 --> 00:35:59,384
He's not on the boat.
He's not there.

752
00:35:59,384 --> 00:36:01,144
He's not there.

753
00:36:01,144 --> 00:36:01,384
He's not there.
And in that meantime,
we'd heard from the pilots

754
00:36:01,384 --> 00:36:04,704
And in that meantime,
we'd heard from the pilots

755
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:08,944
that they're pretty sure he...
Hayden never made it.

756
00:36:20,024 --> 00:36:23,224
On board the cruise ship
the Ovation of the Seas,

757
00:36:23,224 --> 00:36:25,624
families were waiting
for their loved ones

758
00:36:25,624 --> 00:36:28,584
to return from the day trip
to White Island.

759
00:36:29,824 --> 00:36:32,784
Hours passed before
they found out what had happened.

760
00:36:35,464 --> 00:36:37,144
RITA: There are accounts of people

761
00:36:37,144 --> 00:36:38,944
who only found out about
this tragedy

762
00:36:38,944 --> 00:36:39,184
who only found out about
through a panicked phone call

763
00:36:39,184 --> 00:36:40,544
through a panicked phone call

764
00:36:40,544 --> 00:36:40,784
from a family member
through a panicked phone call

765
00:36:40,784 --> 00:36:42,464
from a family member
back in Australia

766
00:36:42,464 --> 00:36:46,464
saying, "Turn on the TV and look
at what's happened on White Island."

767
00:36:48,144 --> 00:36:51,064
The accounts I've heard
are that the staff members

768
00:36:51,064 --> 00:36:54,224
did not communicate and when
they were confronted about it,

769
00:36:54,224 --> 00:36:57,384
they told the family members
to sit in a room

770
00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:57,664
they told the family members
to sit in a room
for an extended amount of time,
with no information,

771
00:36:57,664 --> 00:37:01,384
for an extended amount of time,
with no information,

772
00:37:01,384 --> 00:37:03,904
and wasted precious hours
that they could have been using

773
00:37:03,904 --> 00:37:06,864
to see their family members
in hospital

774
00:37:06,864 --> 00:37:07,104
to see their family members
before a lot of them did pass away.

775
00:37:07,104 --> 00:37:09,344
before a lot of them did pass away.

776
00:37:11,904 --> 00:37:14,904
Gavin Dallow, his wife, Lisa,
and her daughter, Zoe,

777
00:37:14,904 --> 00:37:17,944
were among those who hadn't
returned to the cruise ship.

778
00:37:21,104 --> 00:37:24,384
As we go to air tonight,
at least 27 people are missing

779
00:37:24,384 --> 00:37:27,944
after a volcano erupted
off the coast of New Zealand.

780
00:37:27,944 --> 00:37:30,544
One person has been confirmed dead,
but authorities...

781
00:37:30,544 --> 00:37:34,064
BRIAN: We were watching
the six o'clock news,

782
00:37:34,064 --> 00:37:35,704
and they said about it...

783
00:37:35,704 --> 00:37:38,664
REPORTER: New Zealand's
most active volcano exploded...

784
00:37:38,664 --> 00:37:43,264
And then our nephew rang and said
that he knew he was on the island.

785
00:37:43,264 --> 00:37:43,544
So first instinct, of course,
was to dial his mobile phone,
And then our nephew rang and said
that he knew he was on the island.

786
00:37:43,544 --> 00:37:49,544
So first instinct, of course,
was to dial his mobile phone,

787
00:37:49,544 --> 00:37:49,784
So first instinct, of course,
of course several times.

788
00:37:49,784 --> 00:37:52,144
of course several times.

789
00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:55,664
But we didn't get an answer,
naturally,

790
00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:55,904
But we didn't get an answer,
naturally,
so we knew there was something up.

791
00:37:55,904 --> 00:37:57,824
so we knew there was something up.

792
00:37:57,824 --> 00:37:58,064
We knew Gavin was on the island,
we knew Zoe was on the island,
so we knew there was something up.

793
00:37:58,064 --> 00:38:01,024
We knew Gavin was on the island,
we knew Zoe was on the island,

794
00:38:01,024 --> 00:38:02,624
we knew they were in
the shore party -

795
00:38:02,624 --> 00:38:06,024
we were told that
by the authorities in New Zealand.

796
00:38:06,024 --> 00:38:06,264
we were told that
by the authorities in New Zealand.
So, we knew they were in that party.

797
00:38:06,264 --> 00:38:08,224
So, we knew they were in that party.

798
00:38:08,224 --> 00:38:10,744
But you have no idea
who got off or who didn't,

799
00:38:10,744 --> 00:38:13,064
and who was burnt
and who had been injured

800
00:38:13,064 --> 00:38:13,304
and who was burnt
and all those sorts of things.

801
00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:14,864
and all those sorts of things.

802
00:38:14,864 --> 00:38:16,304
So, you had no idea.

803
00:38:16,304 --> 00:38:18,384
You just knew they were there.

804
00:38:18,384 --> 00:38:21,504
We were holding out hope
that he might be in hospital,

805
00:38:21,504 --> 00:38:24,344
but that was in vain.

806
00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:29,864
I think in the back of our minds,
we knew something was really wrong.

807
00:38:29,864 --> 00:38:30,104
I think in the back of our minds,
And on Saturday, they rung us to say

808
00:38:30,104 --> 00:38:33,304
And on Saturday, they rung us to say

809
00:38:33,304 --> 00:38:35,784
that he had been
officially identified.

810
00:38:36,864 --> 00:38:40,584
And from then on, it was just
a matter of bringing him home.

811
00:38:44,904 --> 00:38:48,624
There were eight bodies
still left on the island.

812
00:38:48,624 --> 00:38:50,544
The effort to rescue them
was delayed

813
00:38:50,544 --> 00:38:50,784
The effort to rescue them
because of fears of another eruption.

814
00:38:50,784 --> 00:38:52,824
because of fears of another eruption.

815
00:38:53,824 --> 00:38:56,064
MARK: We were sort of
almost assured that,

816
00:38:56,064 --> 00:39:00,344
"Don't worry, we've put him
somewhere, and we're heading back."

817
00:39:00,344 --> 00:39:03,104
And then when that call
was made not to go back...

818
00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,784
That was a moment in time...

819
00:39:13,664 --> 00:39:15,384
..that changed everything.

820
00:39:19,784 --> 00:39:23,784
Yeah, that moment in time
meant we'd never see him again.

821
00:39:27,184 --> 00:39:30,624
When official rescue teams arrived
on the island four days later,

822
00:39:30,624 --> 00:39:30,864
When official rescue teams arrived
only six bodies were there.

823
00:39:30,864 --> 00:39:33,104
only six bodies were there.

824
00:39:35,144 --> 00:39:38,624
The bodies of Hayden Marshall-Inman
and Winona Langford

825
00:39:38,624 --> 00:39:40,864
had been washed away by heavy rain.

826
00:39:44,624 --> 00:39:48,584
There isn't a day goes by
that you don't... Oh, shit.

827
00:39:48,584 --> 00:39:49,864
There isn't a day go by

828
00:39:49,864 --> 00:39:52,584
that you don't think about both
Winona and Hayden

829
00:39:52,584 --> 00:39:55,544
because, as we said, Hayden would
always be the last man standing.

830
00:39:55,544 --> 00:39:55,784
because, as we said, Hayden would
He's become the guardian of Whakaari

831
00:39:55,784 --> 00:39:58,944
He's become the guardian of Whakaari

832
00:39:58,944 --> 00:40:01,144
and he had opportunity to come home

833
00:40:01,144 --> 00:40:04,144
and he chose to stay
and look after Winona, so.

834
00:40:07,544 --> 00:40:09,104
Among the bodies recovered

835
00:40:09,104 --> 00:40:12,624
was Gavin Dallow's stepdaughter,
Zoe Hosking.

836
00:40:12,624 --> 00:40:17,184
Gavin's wife, Lisa, had survived,
but was badly injured.

837
00:40:17,184 --> 00:40:20,344
She was one of the people
rescued by the pilots.

838
00:40:22,224 --> 00:40:25,704
If we have made a difference
to one person's life,

839
00:40:25,704 --> 00:40:25,944
If we have made a difference
it's all worth it.

840
00:40:25,944 --> 00:40:28,744
it's all worth it.

841
00:40:28,744 --> 00:40:28,944
it's all worth it.
Yeah, fantastic.

842
00:40:28,944 --> 00:40:30,544
Yeah, fantastic.

843
00:40:30,544 --> 00:40:36,424
And if that's the case,
that's a wonderful result.

844
00:40:38,104 --> 00:40:40,744
In New Zealand,
WorkSafe and the coroner

845
00:40:40,744 --> 00:40:42,984
are both looking into the tragedy,

846
00:40:42,984 --> 00:40:45,904
but their investigations
could take more than a year.

847
00:40:45,904 --> 00:40:49,384
GEOFF: I don't put any blame
on White Island Tours.

848
00:40:49,384 --> 00:40:53,704
They gave me an opportunity twice
to be on that island

849
00:40:53,704 --> 00:40:53,944
They gave me an opportunity twice
and to experience it,

850
00:40:53,944 --> 00:40:55,344
and to experience it,

851
00:40:55,344 --> 00:40:59,944
and thousands of people have been
able to do that without incident.

852
00:40:59,944 --> 00:41:00,224
I'm satisfied that
what they talked to us about...
and thousands of people have been
able to do that without incident.

853
00:41:00,224 --> 00:41:05,304
I'm satisfied that
what they talked to us about...

854
00:41:05,304 --> 00:41:05,584
I'm satisfied that
what they talked to us about...
I didn't expect anything more
from them.

855
00:41:05,584 --> 00:41:07,944
I didn't expect anything more
from them.

856
00:41:07,944 --> 00:41:08,184
I didn't expect anything more
And certainly, after the eruption,

857
00:41:08,184 --> 00:41:09,824
And certainly, after the eruption,

858
00:41:09,824 --> 00:41:13,704
I've never thought,
"Oh, they could have done more."

859
00:41:15,384 --> 00:41:17,264
TIM: There's no way in this world

860
00:41:17,264 --> 00:41:20,184
that any of us would have
put people on the island

861
00:41:20,184 --> 00:41:20,424
that any of us would have
if we'd thought for a moment,

862
00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:22,024
if we'd thought for a moment,

863
00:41:22,024 --> 00:41:22,264
not one millisecond, that there
if we'd thought for a moment,

864
00:41:22,264 --> 00:41:27,904
not one millisecond, that there
would have been a result like this.

865
00:41:30,944 --> 00:41:35,544
19 of the 21 people who died
were from the Ovation of the Seas.

866
00:41:36,864 --> 00:41:38,584
Sydney lawyer Rita Yousef

867
00:41:38,584 --> 00:41:41,264
is representing passengers
and family members

868
00:41:41,264 --> 00:41:44,304
who believe the cruise operator,
Royal Caribbean,

869
00:41:44,304 --> 00:41:47,184
didn't do enough to warn its guests.

870
00:41:47,184 --> 00:41:50,384
RITA: This particular volcano
was at Level Two.

871
00:41:50,384 --> 00:41:52,784
At the very least,
Royal Caribbean,

872
00:41:52,784 --> 00:41:55,344
which held itself out
to be responsible for this tour,

873
00:41:55,344 --> 00:41:55,584
which held itself out
should have been monitoring this,

874
00:41:55,584 --> 00:41:57,184
should have been monitoring this,

875
00:41:57,184 --> 00:41:59,704
and communicating with participants
as to the risk,

876
00:41:59,704 --> 00:41:59,944
and communicating with participants
and giving them the choice -

877
00:41:59,944 --> 00:42:01,504
and giving them the choice -

878
00:42:01,504 --> 00:42:01,744
an informed choice to decide
and giving them the choice -

879
00:42:01,744 --> 00:42:06,784
an informed choice to decide
not to go because of this risk.

880
00:42:06,784 --> 00:42:11,344
How much responsibility
is on the participant in the tour

881
00:42:11,344 --> 00:42:15,504
to do their own research to find out
how safe or unsafe something is?

882
00:42:15,504 --> 00:42:15,744
I would say none,
to do their own research to find out
how safe or unsafe something is?

883
00:42:15,744 --> 00:42:17,424
I would say none,

884
00:42:17,424 --> 00:42:21,664
and that's because they're relying
on this company to do that for them.

885
00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:24,504
They're handing over money,
their hard-earned money

886
00:42:24,504 --> 00:42:24,784
They're handing over money,
their hard-earned money
for somebody else
to be responsible for that.

887
00:42:24,784 --> 00:42:26,704
for somebody else
to be responsible for that.

888
00:42:35,184 --> 00:42:39,464
For many families,
the grief is still very raw.

889
00:42:42,504 --> 00:42:45,864
I think we're probably
like anybody in the same situation.

890
00:42:45,864 --> 00:42:46,104
I think we're probably
We're having our moments.

891
00:42:46,104 --> 00:42:47,384
We're having our moments.

892
00:42:47,384 --> 00:42:51,904
We've got his case there,
but we still haven't unpacked it.

893
00:42:51,904 --> 00:42:57,784
So that will be the next bit
of trauma we've got to go through.

894
00:42:57,784 --> 00:43:00,264
But things are just not going to
go away for a while yet.

895
00:43:01,624 --> 00:43:04,024
So, we've just got to live
day by day.

896
00:43:05,224 --> 00:43:11,544
I know that not everyone survived
unfortunately,

897
00:43:11,544 --> 00:43:17,024
but constantly I just wished
the best to their families

898
00:43:17,024 --> 00:43:17,264
but constantly I just wished
and for those people who survived.

899
00:43:17,264 --> 00:43:22,224
and for those people who survived.

900
00:43:29,224 --> 00:43:32,944
What the rescuers saw that day
will stay with them forever,

901
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:37,264
but their efforts to save the victims
of the White Island eruption

902
00:43:37,264 --> 00:43:38,824
won't be forgotten.

903
00:43:40,024 --> 00:43:42,224
BRIAN: I think they were damn brave,

904
00:43:42,224 --> 00:43:45,584
because I would have got off
that island as fast as I could have

905
00:43:45,584 --> 00:43:47,264
after the blast.

906
00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:51,704
But anybody that they picked up,

907
00:43:51,704 --> 00:43:53,504
they put their own lives in danger,

908
00:43:53,504 --> 00:43:55,184
that was for sure.

909
00:43:59,024 --> 00:44:01,464
TOM: I just hope that if I was ever,

910
00:44:01,464 --> 00:44:01,704
or any of my family members
TOM: I just hope that if I was ever,

911
00:44:01,704 --> 00:44:04,584
or any of my family members
were in that same situation,

912
00:44:04,584 --> 00:44:04,824
or any of my family members
someone would do the same for them.

913
00:44:04,824 --> 00:44:07,304
someone would do the same for them.

914
00:44:07,304 --> 00:44:12,344
Yeah, and just hope that they've
got a bit of reassurance

915
00:44:12,344 --> 00:44:13,904
that we were there to help them,

916
00:44:13,904 --> 00:44:16,384
and we tried our best
to make them as comfortable

917
00:44:16,384 --> 00:44:16,624
and we tried our best
and as peaceful as we could.

918
00:44:16,624 --> 00:44:18,064
and as peaceful as we could.

919
00:44:21,464 --> 00:44:26,184
I'm just so glad they did what they
did. Absolute bloody heroes.

920
00:44:26,184 --> 00:44:26,424
I'm just so glad they did what they
And I hope, for their sake,

921
00:44:26,424 --> 00:44:28,464
And I hope, for their sake,

922
00:44:28,464 --> 00:44:33,024
that what they've seen doesn't
haunt them for a long, long time.

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