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Michael Yamashita: 700 years
ago, a young Venetian embarked

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on a 24 year odyssey, taking him
to the furthest reaches of the globe.

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His book, "Description of
the World," altered the course

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of history and made him a
legend. Some believe it also

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made him a liar.

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I'm Mike Yamashita, a National
Geographic photographer.

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For centuries, Marco Polo has been a
figure of inspiration and

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suspicion. Did the world's
greatest overland explorer

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really see what he described in
his fantastical book? Did he

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ever make it to China?

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Marco Polo's book: Great
princes, emperors and kings,

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dukes and marquesses, counts,
knights and burgesses. And

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people of all degrees who desire
to get knowledge of the various

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races of mankind, take this book
and cause it to be read to you,

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for let me tell you that never
have there been any man who in

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his own person have had so much
knowledge and experience of the

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diverse parts of the world and
its wonders as have had this

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Messr. Marco.

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Michael Yamashita: Those are the
opening lines to Marco's

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modestly titled book,
"Description of the World." Now

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when I first read it, I got
what's called Marco Polo fever

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and the symptoms of this disease
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totally obsessed with everything
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that's why I'm here and in Venice.

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Okay, this is Corte del
Milion, Marco Polo's believed to

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be his, his house. Why millon?
Well, he was called milion by

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his contemporaries and nobody
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about the fact that he made a
million dollars or told a

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million lies who knows?

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You know, Giuseppe, I've heard a
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Corte del Milion, but tell me
what you know about this

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building? Is this Marco Polo's
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all was the house of Marco Polo
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large. You know anything about
Marco Polo? Marco Polo? Yeah. He

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lives there. What about this
house? No, no.

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Does he live here? No, Veneziano
dock. La isla de la Giudecca.

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Oh, he lives on Giudecca. Nobody
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think it's this one. Well, there
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something about Marco Polo
living here. And that is these

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two birds up there, which are,
I'm told the Polo crest, the

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Marco Polo family crest.

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What we do know is that Marco
was only 17 when his father and

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uncle took him on one of the
most influential journeys ever

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made. They were merchants and
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the bustling commercial center
of the Mediterranean. Yet very

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few Europeans dared venture
beyond their borders. Back then,

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many people still thought the
world was flat. No European,

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barring a handful of
missionaries would have gone as

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far as he did.

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Here we are at the Piazza San
Marco with its two columns on

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the Quay. This would have been
the exact same view Marco saw

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when he left Venice for China at
the age of 17. You see the size

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of that thing?

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Oh, man!

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I wanted to find a new way to
shoot this historical place. And

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I discovered that one of the
world's largest cruise ships,

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the Grand Princess, was about to
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Unbelievable!

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As a Japanese American, I grew
up interested in the Far East

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and I studied Asian history in
college. And now I'm going to

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get a chance to see a lot of
that history come alive. I've

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always been interested in Marco
Polo. But what really got me and

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deep in my intrigue was reading
an article questioning whether

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he actually made it to China or
not. And I thought, wouldn't

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this be the opportunity to prove
once and for all that he made it

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or didn't make the trip? That
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question.

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I then read a book by Dr.
Frances Wood, curator of the

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Chinese collection at the
British Library, who argues that

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Marco fabricated the stories in his book.

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Dr. Frances Wood: For centuries,
people have doubted whether he

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actually travelled all the way
across Asia to China. Whether he

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actually came back and wrote a
book about it, some people even

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doubt whether he even existed at all.

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Michael Yamashita: I'm going to
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like a guide, and make up my own
mind. So whether you become a

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believer or not, what you're
about to see is one of the most

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amazing overland journeys ever made.

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Marco Polo left Venice in 1271.
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and Afghanistan before he
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years later, the Pamir mountains
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I'm sure that this would have
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legs and Marco's journey. He
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winter, because in his book, he
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mountains, flying birds, there
are none. In that case, Marco

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would have had to deal with
blizzards and avalanches. And as

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if that weren't bad enough, he
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neither habitation nor shelter.

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Marco Polo's book: Tis said to
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world. And when you have got to
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lake between two mountains, and
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through a plain, clothed with
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Michael Yamashita: Cool breeze,
soft sunlight, and unbelievable

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scenery. It just doesn't get any
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his way through China, he
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occasions, a rather unusual
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have made his eyes pop,
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only a teenager. Now I don't
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not, but one thing I've been
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these women really are.

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Now these are Kyrgheze people,
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beautiful here and there's only
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That's true. Yeah. And I imagine
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here is making these same
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over here. It's their job. Okay.
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throughout the book, he talks
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when the visitor arrives, the
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what he may with the wife as
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she?

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She's 16. What's her name? Tell
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pretty. (foreign language
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Marco Polo's book: If a
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one of these people to lodge,
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desires his wife to put herself
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disposal. Obviously, the country
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from 16 to 24.

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Michael Yamashita: Now Chinese
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that the practice of sharing
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visitors was indeed an ancient
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theory being that it helped
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the threat of marriages between
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women were really nice, but they
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shall I say, as the ones I'm
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move on and try to find another
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these parts.

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So Abdul, what I'm really
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traditional family, and I need
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seen the fabled Ovis polii. You
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Marco Polo's book: there are
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of huge size. Their horns are as
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Michael Yamashita: Can you ask
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here, he talked about the big
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were in the Pamir mountains. Has
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(foreign language translator) Yes, he
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Like looks just like a donkey.
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but I did find this set of horns
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in Afghanistan. Just like a
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exaggerate on this one. Thank
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Thank you, really enjoyed it

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Well, it's still another 250
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of Kashgar. It takes about nine
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day, he said crossing these
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two and a half months.

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Dr. Frances Wood: Now Marco Polo
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from Venice all the way to
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rest of China. We assume and I
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it's it's a travel book where
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place to place. But if you read
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do that. He suddenly shoots up
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cuts back down again. He
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footsteps. So whatever it is,
it's not an itinerary that you

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can follow directly.

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Michael Yamashita: Some of the
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sometimes he's right on,
incredibly accurate and other

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times he's way off. But the
miracle for me is to think what

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he wrote about was 20 years
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Marco Polo's book: There are a
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villages, but the greatest and
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Michael Yamashita: Well, Kashgar is
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Asia. And it was a big market
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As he puts it, there's a wealth
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travel, from Kashgar all over
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place is definitely for me, 13th century.

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What hasn't changed are the
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bargaining and all this human
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turns me on. And those are the
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This, the donkey section, it
seems to be, contained the most

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characters. I think it's because
donkeys are like a very basic

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form of transportation. And
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people here. Great faces,
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other part of the market. And
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here is nobody seems to pay any
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shooting because they're all so
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hand which is buying and selling
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around here and shoot without
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cameras in their face.

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I did a picture like this in
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the weed up. And I always choose
an angle where I'm right in the

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middle of the action. So I
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scene so you can feel the wind
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It hides and reveals at the same
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Perfect illustration. Plus, as
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whatever picture of an ordinary
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than ordinary. I love that. I
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What I love about old Kashgar is
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changed much here in the last
1000 years or so. I like sitting

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on a corner and watching the
world go by the women with their

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veils over their head. These
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privileged being a photographer
and being able to see scenes

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like this and record them
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history and putting it on film
seeing something that won't be

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here in another three or four years.

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As we traveled east a few hours
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come across Yangasar, a town
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Well, Marco talks about
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usually in reference to making
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thought we should come here
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only steelmaking we found. Of
course it's also the best knives

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supposedly on the Silk Road. And
surely, Marco pass this way and

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everybody, as you can see, all
these Uighurs carry one. And I'm

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sure he was carrying one too

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I understand the Yangisar knife
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Road. Is that true? Yeah. How
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For a long time. Like how long?

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The history? For about 1000
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make one of these knives? One
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put up one knife.

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How long have these guys been
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How long does it take for them
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For my master, maybe over 30
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guy been working? Maybe, about
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been here for forty five years?
He's one of the oldest knife

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masters in this factory. Thanks
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Let's get out of this noise.
Show me some of those knives I'd

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like to buy. Hey check out my
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handle. So from Yangisar, Marco
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Road. And one of the most
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here of course is silk, which
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silk exported from China today
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course we wanted to find silk
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the way it would have been
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found what we were looking for
in the villages around Hotan.

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Guli, what's going on here?

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Translator: This is called a
silk boiling. So they boil the

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cocoon in this pot, about 15
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soft. So the lady find the head
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From one cocoon, they can get
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Michael Yamashita: 800 meters?
Of raw silk. Wow! What happens

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to the worms? Are people still
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Translator: Yes, people still
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sauce.

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Michael Yamashita: Do you like
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it myself.

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I've never seen that before my
life. Are you are you watching

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this? Guli? Can you explain to
me what's going on here?

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(Translator)

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Michael Yamashita: Can you
explain to me what she's doing

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with this?

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Translator: This is corn starch.
Make the silk stiff.

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Michael Yamashita: It makes it
stiff

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Wow! I've never seen that.

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That was great.

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I guess what I find incredible
is first of all, the fruit here

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is so good. Marco Polo talks
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fruit. And we just have traveled
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here we are in an oasis town. He
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on the ground and turns into
clay so that these guys can

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build this wall. And it's the
same soil that grows this

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amazing fruit. It's almost like
if you look at that it looks

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like just plain sand but put
some water on it and it becomes

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just the most fertile soil that
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I'm now going in search of what
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doesn't burn. And it comes from
these remarkable rocks which can

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produce fiber as soft as cotton.
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fireproof.

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Here it is, just like the book
says. it's sort of a fibrous,

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feels feels like cotton. Chinese
call it cotton rock. And this is

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where it comes from. These veins
right here. This white stuff is

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stuck in these white and these
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color in this rock. And that's
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in Marco's time, many believed
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the shedding skin of a
salamander, a lizard like

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creature that was said to live
in the fire. It was Marco who

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first revealed to the west the
secret of its origins.

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Marco Polo's book: Beauty is not
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the hair of an animal which
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the earth.

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Michael Yamashita: Today
asbestos is big business here in

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China. It's used to make all
sorts of insulating material.

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China has some of the biggest
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today. And they're still
obviously, finding a lot of uses

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for this stuff. I guess
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they do realize there's a danger
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describes it, so it is here he
passed through here. It has to

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be firsthand observation, he
can't have described it any more

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better, unless he had seen it,
just the way I'm looking at it

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right now.

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With each triumphant find, I am
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Marco had to be writing from
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are the sights exactly as he
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each precisely where he tells us
to look. No matter if you're a

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believer in Marco Polo or not,
the mystery of whether he made

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it to China has brought us here.
He's crossed the Pamirs, the so

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called roof of the world,
suffering from incredible cold

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and high altitude. He's
descended into Kashgar, where he

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visits the great market and
reports about all the merchants

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who from here go all over the
world. He's seen the silk being

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made on the Silk Road. And he's
discovered the amazing cloth

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that doesn't burn. And here we
are, now on the edge of the

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Taklimakan, heading to the
fabled land of Xanadu, and the

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magnificent palace of the Mongol
ruler, Kublai Khan. And perhaps

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his biggest challenge lies ahead
of him: crossing this unending,

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unbearable desert, which in its
native language means "go in,

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and you won't come out."

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Marco Polo's book: When
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night, and one of them chances
to lag behind, he will hear

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spirits talking, and will
suppose them to be his comrades,

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and thus shall a traveler be led
astray, so that he never finds

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his party, and in this way, many
have perished.

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Michael Yamashita: Well, here I
am in the Taklimakan, the

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hottest and driest desert in all
of China. It gives you a real

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appreciation for what Marco Polo
must have gone through, spending

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two months crossing over this
same waste land of sand, 100

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degree heat. You're always
feeling dry. You're never quite

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comfortable, it's the sand
that's itching or the sweat

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that's dripping down your brow.
It must have been the hardest

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part of his journey.

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Dr. Frances Wood: From very
early on, people cast doubt on

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Marco Polo. First of all, people
didn't believe what was written

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how vast and enormous China was.
Then you get, more in the 19th

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century, people start
questioning whether it was

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possible to get from X to Y in
the sort of time he states. And

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gradually I think if you build
up, if you were to build up the

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doubts that have been expressed
over the centuries, you start to

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see that there are very real
questions about Marco Polo, but

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they never quite defeat those
who want him to have been there.

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Michael Yamashita: So here we
are now an Aksai on the edge of

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the desert and we've run into
these nomadic people or former

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nomads. They're Kazhaks and
would you believe it? It's a

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wedding. As I often say,
photographers are paid to be

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lucky.

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Okay, so this is the, this is
the bride being brought to the

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groom's neighborhood and she
just got off the car. She

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doesn't have her full get up on
but boy, does she look great

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wearing red, I can't believe it.

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The groom's coming in to meet
the family. Everybody's

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welcoming them.

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Look at all the guests, look at
these babes, look at these women

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wearing these incredibly colorful dresses.

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Unknown: This must be the
bride's mother.

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Michael Yamashita: They don't
even need music to dance here.

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Alright I don't know what rhythm
these ladies are dancing to but

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I don't hear any music. (Foreign
language)

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Marco Polo's book: Those who
have reared the sheep, bring it

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with their children and perform
a solemn act of devotion. They

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will have the sheep slaughtered
and cooked, they have the head,

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feet, entrails and fleece.

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Whoa whoa (singing).

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In rereading my copy of Marco Polo
last night, regarding his time spent in

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Dunhuang, I was struck by the
similarity, or not even

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similarity, how exactly he
described a sheep sacrifice, in

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this case for the protection of
the children, and how that just

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exactly fit what we saw here at
the wedding last night. Of

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course, his critics say it's not
what Marco described that raises

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doubts. It's what he failed to
mention.

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Dr. Frances Wood: There are some
very serious omissions which do

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really seriously make one
question whether this is an

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eyewitness account. He doesn't,
for example, in China, mention

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chopsticks once. He doesn't
mention drinking tea, although

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his defenders would say, "well,
that's because he didn't like

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tea, perhaps he preferred wine
because he was Italian." He

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doesn't mention the bound feet
that he might have seen on

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certain Chinese women. So these
omissions are a slight problem.

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Michael Yamashita: I think it's
important to show not only what

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Marco described, but what he
didn't describe and try to come

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to some answers to why he didn't
describe it. I'm looking for the

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famous village with the women
with the bound feet. Now bound

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feet women don't exist
everywhere in China because it

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was banned about 100 years ago.
But in these far off provinces

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and faraway villages, there
still exist quite a few of these

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women who are now in their 80s
and 90s. This particular village

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is famous because they formed a
troupe called the little feet

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dancing troupe, so I know
they're here. Now one of the

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biggest arguments by those non
believers in Marco Polo is this

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bound foot issue. However, I
think he did talk about it. He

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describes the women's gait as
being very dainty, and that

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they, each step is only a hair's
breadth in front of the next

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step. That, to me, is describing
the way a bound foot woman

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walks. The other thing is, he
would not have seen them since

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they all wore long dresses in
those days. And therefore, in my

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opinion, for sure, he talks
about the bound feet without

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ever having seen them. These
women have the smallest feet

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I've ever seen.

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So May, I understand these women
are have this smallest feet in

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the village? Yeah. Can you ask
how old was she when they bound

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her feet? (Chinese translator
with elderly women).

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Four to five years old. 4 to 5?

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Translator: So at that time, the
women they have to have a very

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smaller, very small feet so that
they can marry a very good

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person, rich person.

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Michael Yamashita: Could I,
could I take a look at that

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shoe? (Chinese translator) And
who makes these shoes.

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Translator: she wear eyeglasses
and made this. Oh, yeah, you

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might have the people to do for her.

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Michael Yamashita: Do you mind
if I, I see the size comparison.

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Unbelievable. But what really is
amazing to me is they've been

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able to have a pretty darn
normal life. And obviously,

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there's no shame to this, they
seem to be very proud of their

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feet. It's just an amazing
practice. Now, I'm not a

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scholar. So I decided to talk to
Professor Liu, a historian and

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specialist in Marco Polo.
Professor Liu, we're in a tea

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house, drinking some very good
Chinese tea and I'm going to ask

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you therefore, what about the
omissions of Marco Polo, the

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fact that he never mentioned
tea, or chopsticks, for example.

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Michael Yamashita: So they
wouldn't have he wouldn't have

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met many Chinese. As Marco
rarely interacted with the lowly

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Chinese, no wonder he didn't
pick up many of their customs.

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But still, how do you explain
Marco's most glaring omission:

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his failure to mention China's
greatest landmark, the Great

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Wall.

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The Great Wall of China. Over
2000 years old, over 4000 miles

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long. It's been built and
rebuilt by countless ruling

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dynasties. How come Marco Polo
never mentioned it in his book.

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It's here in Jiayuguan that the
mystery of Marco Polo starts to

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fall apart.

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As any Chinese scholar can tell
you, it was this wall, this 10

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foot high maybe, mud wall that
Marco Polo saw when he traveled

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through here in 1275. Now this
wall is the Han Wall, built

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somewhere around AD 200, just
pretty much a lump wandering

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through the desert. And if I was
Marco Polo, I wouldn't have paid

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it a second glance, especially
after the walls that he saw and

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commented in places like Bam in
Iran, the world's biggest

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citadel, the Great Wall, in his
day was just not great.

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It's the Ming wall that all the
tourists go to in Beijing that

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gives the great to the Great
Wall. And that was built 300

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years after Marco came this way.

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This is it. End of the Great
Wall? No way to go this way. No

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way to go that way either with a
mountains. Marco Polo had to

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have passed through here as all,
everybody did coming into China

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from the west.

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By now, the Polos have traveled
perhaps 1300 miles in China,

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about halfway to Shangdu. And I
was getting a little hungry.

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So the real question for me is,
did Marco Polo bring spaghetti

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and ravioli from Italy to China?
Or did he bring noodles and

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jiaozi from China to Italy? And
the real answer is the Arabs

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brought noodles both to China
and Italy well before Marco Polo

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ever arrived here. But for me, I
don't care either way. I just

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like to taste the noodles: pasta
or Chinese noodles, either way,

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one of my favorite foods.

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As we approach Inner Mongolia,
I'm hoping to see the famous

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Mongolian horses that so
impressed Marco and helped the

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Mongols create the biggest
empire the world has ever known.

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Must have been an amazing sight
to see: hundreds of 1000s of

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these horses, and men going over
these hills. They went off to

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battle, they didn't have to
carry oats or grain to feed the

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horses because the horses just
lived off the land. They, of

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course, lived off the horses

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You know I need to be a little
closer. Let's go this way

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They'd be on a horse march and
going hungry for a couple of

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00:44:07,427 --> 00:44:13,444
days they actually slit the
horse's vein and drink the blood

443
00:44:13,496 --> 00:44:20,326
as it splurted out and then sew
it up and on they went. And you

444
00:44:20,378 --> 00:44:27,146
can imagine how an army of that
toughness and mobility on horses

445
00:44:27,198 --> 00:44:35,540
could really cover ground over
this flat land. We're getting

446
00:44:35,894 --> 00:44:39,471
close to Xanadu and Marco Polo
must have been in great

447
00:44:39,523 --> 00:44:44,976
anticipation. Kublai Khan was,
and I quote, "the most powerful

448
00:44:45,028 --> 00:44:50,076
man in people and in lands and
in treasure that was ever in the

449
00:44:50,128 --> 00:44:58,470
world." This is where the Great
Khan reined three months of the

450
00:44:58,699 --> 00:45:07,020
year. All that is left now is
rubble.

451
00:45:16,385 --> 00:45:24,153
Hey, we finally made it. Here we
are. Shangdu, or Xanadu, as

452
00:45:24,205 --> 00:45:29,439
Coleridge called it. Marco
Polo's destination. This is what

453
00:45:29,491 --> 00:45:33,433
he came to see. This is where it
where he came to meet the Khan.

454
00:45:33,996 --> 00:45:37,854
And boy, he must have been
impressed. Figure this guy's

455
00:45:37,906 --> 00:45:41,046
been traveling for three and a
half years; it only took us

456
00:45:41,098 --> 00:45:45,790
what, a little over three weeks.
He gets here after crossing

457
00:45:45,821 --> 00:45:49,679
hundreds of miles of desert and
he sees this green, and these

458
00:45:49,731 --> 00:45:55,936
walls. You can imagine what it
must have been like. I'm

459
00:45:55,988 --> 00:46:00,690
standing on the gate here, on
the outside wall. It's the

460
00:46:00,742 --> 00:46:05,195
southern gate, as you can see,
the sun is down this way,

461
00:46:05,247 --> 00:46:10,889
directly west. This city has
been laid down in a grid. You

462
00:46:10,941 --> 00:46:15,863
can see the outer wall coming
down this way, going down that

463
00:46:15,915 --> 00:46:20,993
way to the east and coming
around pretty well defined all

464
00:46:21,045 --> 00:46:22,015
the way out there.

465
00:46:38,751 --> 00:46:42,828
Yeah, Marco talks about these,
what I think is a roof tile and

466
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,426
the shine it gives off 700 years
ago and you can still find them

467
00:46:46,478 --> 00:46:50,200
sitting on the ground here in
the middle of the of Xanadu.

468
00:47:01,337 --> 00:47:05,696
When I read Marco Polos
description of the palace, I'm

469
00:47:05,748 --> 00:47:12,098
seeing the Forbidden City, in my
mind's eye. The checkerboard

470
00:47:12,943 --> 00:47:18,542
pattern, the north south axis,
the way it's laid out, the

471
00:47:18,573 --> 00:47:26,249
doubled walls, the huge halls
that could seat 6000 banqueters

472
00:47:26,301 --> 00:47:31,942
at one sitting. What he
describes is what I feel here

473
00:47:31,994 --> 00:47:36,279
and what I'm seeing is, is
indeed this Forbidden City, but

474
00:47:36,561 --> 00:47:41,232
the actual Palace was destroyed,
as were most remnants of the

475
00:47:41,284 --> 00:47:48,177
Yuan Dynasty. Wow! Can you
believe this? I've been here at

476
00:47:48,229 --> 00:47:51,671
least a half a dozen times. And
every time I come here, I'm just

477
00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:58,157
totally blown away by the scale
and grandeur. I feel like I'm on

478
00:47:58,209 --> 00:48:03,099
a movie set. And just think what
Marco Polo must have felt: a

479
00:48:03,151 --> 00:48:08,667
small town guy, and he comes to
this amazing city, with over a

480
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,515
million population. He must have
been totally blown away. This

481
00:48:12,567 --> 00:48:16,259
must have absolutely floored him
to see something like this.

482
00:48:33,151 --> 00:48:37,353
From Xanadu, Marco travelled to
Daidu, the New City being built

483
00:48:37,405 --> 00:48:42,390
by the Khan. Today, it's called
Beijing. And you can still find

484
00:48:42,442 --> 00:48:45,414
Marco's legacy and China's
bustling capitol.

485
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:49,835
Marco Polo's book: There is not
a bridge in the world to compare

486
00:48:49,887 --> 00:48:54,590
with it. It has 24 arches, and
is built entirely of gray

487
00:48:54,642 --> 00:48:58,750
marble. At the foot of the
column is a marble lion. And on

488
00:48:58,803 --> 00:49:02,973
top of the column, another of
great beauty and size and fine

489
00:49:03,025 --> 00:49:03,745
workmanship.

490
00:49:06,550 --> 00:49:09,158
Michael Yamashita: You know,
Marco Polo was totally impressed

491
00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:16,352
by this bridge, and described it
in a lot of detail. And

492
00:49:16,404 --> 00:49:20,137
therefore, to this day, his
name's on it. This is the Marco

493
00:49:20,189 --> 00:49:26,519
Polo Bridge. But, you know, I've
been here photographing this

494
00:49:26,571 --> 00:49:31,837
thing for half a day now. And I
still can't, couldn't have told

495
00:49:31,889 --> 00:49:37,906
you how many arches are here,
unless I specifically focused on

496
00:49:37,958 --> 00:49:43,850
that and counted them. So those
who doubt Marco Polo are saying

497
00:49:43,902 --> 00:49:49,793
that he didn't get the arches
right. And I'm saying, who's

498
00:49:49,845 --> 00:49:56,550
counting? He also talked about
the the lions up there on the

499
00:49:56,602 --> 00:50:02,244
columns, and he got the lion on
top right. But he also mentioned

500
00:50:02,296 --> 00:50:06,342
there was a lion on the bottom.
So again, the doubters say,

501
00:50:06,394 --> 00:50:09,960
well, look, he mentioned two
lions and there's only one. But

502
00:50:09,991 --> 00:50:18,333
for a guy who supposedly wrote
the book without taking notes, I

503
00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:24,069
say it's an amazing feat that he
got as much right as he did on

504
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:29,272
some detail, like a column and
how many lions were carved

505
00:50:29,324 --> 00:50:33,464
either top or bottom. It was
here that Marco became a

506
00:50:33,516 --> 00:50:37,530
trusted, confidant to the Khan,
working as an emissary and

507
00:50:37,582 --> 00:50:40,617
traveling to the furthest
reaches of the Mongol Empire.

508
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:45,100
Marco could not have imagined
what the next 17 years would

509
00:50:45,152 --> 00:50:49,261
bring: the vast cities and
strange customs he's going to

510
00:50:49,313 --> 00:50:54,673
see; people who dined on raw
flesh; Chinese cities far more

511
00:50:54,726 --> 00:51:02,807
advanced than those of the West.
Could any of this be true? We

512
00:51:02,859 --> 00:51:07,092
have to make sure that what we
are photographing is accurate.

513
00:51:07,144 --> 00:51:11,096
Who, what, when, where, why are
the main questions when I'm

514
00:51:11,148 --> 00:51:17,885
writing up my notes. And at the
end of every morning or every

515
00:51:17,937 --> 00:51:23,724
session of pictures, I like to
sit down logging my film and

516
00:51:23,756 --> 00:51:26,925
write as much detail as I can
about the subject that is

517
00:51:26,978 --> 00:51:27,666
photographed.

518
00:51:33,265 --> 00:51:38,750
Somehow I think Marco Polo in
many of the sections in the book

519
00:51:38,802 --> 00:51:43,787
has had to have written from
notes. The reason is, it's just

520
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:48,260
too detailed and too accurate.
There are other sections that

521
00:51:48,312 --> 00:51:53,078
you can tell he's just sort of
his writing from memory because

522
00:51:53,130 --> 00:51:54,569
there's no detail there.

523
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:14,871
I don't know about you, but for
me, it's very hard to remember

524
00:52:14,923 --> 00:52:21,096
what I shot yesterday or did
yesterday, let alone three weeks

525
00:52:21,148 --> 00:52:24,412
or three years ago. In Marco's
case, some of the stuff he's

526
00:52:24,464 --> 00:52:29,417
writing down is 30 years old
before he gets around writing

527
00:52:29,469 --> 00:52:36,206
about it. So, either he has had
an amazing memory or he took

528
00:52:36,258 --> 00:52:41,930
notes. Perhaps that was when he
was working as a envoy for the

529
00:52:41,983 --> 00:52:46,529
Khan. Traveling on his behalf,
he took notes in order to better

530
00:52:46,581 --> 00:52:50,376
explain what he was seeing in
some of these far flung

531
00:52:50,429 --> 00:52:51,211
provinces.

532
00:53:04,037 --> 00:53:07,832
This is the Grand Canal of
Yangzhou: a manmade waterway

533
00:53:07,884 --> 00:53:12,326
Marco described as stretching
nearly 1100 miles from Beijing.

534
00:53:13,703 --> 00:53:17,623
Marco Polo's book: So that this
Yangzhou, is you see, a city of

535
00:53:17,676 --> 00:53:23,223
great importance and Msr. Marco
Polo himself, of whom this book

536
00:53:23,275 --> 00:53:28,604
speaks, did govern this city for
full years, by the order of the

537
00:53:28,656 --> 00:53:29,501
Great Khan.

538
00:53:35,194 --> 00:53:39,271
Michael Yamashita: We're in
Yangzhou, where Marco supposedly

539
00:53:39,323 --> 00:53:42,743
lived for three years and
supposedly he was the governor

540
00:53:42,795 --> 00:53:47,123
here. Now, most experts figure
that he couldn't have been

541
00:53:47,175 --> 00:53:50,690
governor, otherwise there would
have been some mention of him in

542
00:53:50,742 --> 00:53:53,620
Chinese texts about the period.

543
00:53:54,026 --> 00:53:55,663
Dr. Frances Wood: I think one of
the most serious problems about

544
00:53:55,716 --> 00:53:58,072
Marco Polo is the fact that he
doesn't appear in any of the

545
00:53:58,124 --> 00:54:01,200
Chinese or indeed the Mongol
records of the periods. The

546
00:54:01,252 --> 00:54:03,734
Chinese were the biggest
bureaucrats in the world. They

547
00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:06,424
wrote everything down. They
recorded everything. Every

548
00:54:06,476 --> 00:54:09,709
governor of every city, every
small official. Marco Polo and

549
00:54:09,761 --> 00:54:12,774
his family do not appear
anywhere. There are records of

550
00:54:12,826 --> 00:54:16,435
other Europeans listed in the
Chinese annals, but nothing

551
00:54:16,487 --> 00:54:20,408
about the Polos, and believe me,
Chinese historians, European

552
00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:22,963
historians have been searching
for the last couple of 100

553
00:54:22,994 --> 00:54:26,435
years, and we found nothing.
That's a very serious problem.

554
00:54:51,054 --> 00:54:54,964
Michael Yamashita: The belief is
that he was actually a lower

555
00:54:55,058 --> 00:55:00,918
ranking public servant, perhaps
a salt administrator. And the

556
00:55:00,970 --> 00:55:04,828
reason why they think that is
because he's knows a lot about

557
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,897
salt and Yangzhou was where all
the salt in China was coming

558
00:55:09,949 --> 00:55:15,277
from at the time. It was very
close to the sea. And anyway

559
00:55:15,329 --> 00:55:20,407
where we are now is actually in
a salt administrator's house,

560
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:25,100
which is a pretty nice place. It
is a little strange that if he

561
00:55:25,152 --> 00:55:28,196
indeed did live here for three
years, he certainly had very

562
00:55:28,249 --> 00:55:31,981
little to say about it. It was
almost as if he was saving all

563
00:55:32,034 --> 00:55:35,799
his praise for the next town
we're going to which is

564
00:55:35,851 --> 00:55:40,043
Hangzhou, which he described as
the greatest city in the world.

565
00:55:47,769 --> 00:55:51,533
Marco Polo's book: The city is
beyond dispute the finest and

566
00:55:51,585 --> 00:55:53,149
noblest in the world.

567
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:04,339
Michael Yamashita: To me,
Hangzhou is a no brainer. It was

568
00:56:04,391 --> 00:56:08,207
the greatest city in the world.
He called it the city of heaven.

569
00:56:09,177 --> 00:56:14,130
And it was the London, the
Paris, the Rome, the Beijing of

570
00:56:14,182 --> 00:56:22,263
its day. So of course, a young
guy is going to be interested in

571
00:56:22,315 --> 00:56:25,611
hanging out here and in
describing it in in great

572
00:56:25,663 --> 00:56:30,918
detail. You know if you
substitute the word market for

573
00:56:32,201 --> 00:56:40,501
great shopping. If you talk
about, he talks about food, well

574
00:56:40,553 --> 00:56:48,008
think: restaurants. He talks
about the elegant ladies and the

575
00:56:48,061 --> 00:56:52,326
wine, substitute that for like,
nightlife, and realizing the guy

576
00:56:52,378 --> 00:56:58,697
is in his, like 20s. He was just
having a great time here.

577
00:57:07,644 --> 00:57:12,159
When Marco described this, it
was pretty much the first first

578
00:57:12,211 --> 00:57:17,008
time anybody ever described
aquaculture - and that was 700

579
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:22,879
years ago. They, they raise the
fish here in the lake and then

580
00:57:23,098 --> 00:57:27,550
take them on a regular basis.
And he was, he thought it was

581
00:57:27,602 --> 00:57:32,242
amazing that people had a full
time living as fishermen. So I

582
00:57:32,294 --> 00:57:35,151
guess fishermen in Venice would
only go out on occasion or

583
00:57:35,203 --> 00:57:38,498
something. And for him, it was a
big deal that these guys made a

584
00:57:38,551 --> 00:57:46,372
living, just fishing. It's not
hard to understand why Venetians

585
00:57:46,810 --> 00:57:50,543
couldn't believe what Marco Polo
was telling them. The numbers

586
00:57:50,595 --> 00:57:59,937
alone: 1.6 million houses here.
12,000 bridges. Partiers - 1000s

587
00:58:00,886 --> 00:58:07,488
going to weddings on the island.
Pleasure seekers. In medieval

588
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:14,495
Venice, a city of maybe 100,000
people, there was no time for

589
00:58:14,526 --> 00:58:18,499
leisure. And here on the other
side of the world, was this

590
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:25,329
incredible city, so far superior
to anything in the West. People

591
00:58:25,381 --> 00:58:27,883
here had just so much better a life.

592
00:58:38,645 --> 00:58:42,409
While working on behalf of the
Great Khan, Marco Polo travelled

593
00:58:42,461 --> 00:58:46,006
to the remotest parts of the
empire, encountering many

594
00:58:46,059 --> 00:58:50,229
strange people, but none that he
relished more than those of the

595
00:58:50,282 --> 00:58:52,346
land they call Tibet.

596
00:58:57,330 --> 00:59:01,346
Marco Polo's book: Men of
extraordinary abstinence: all

597
00:59:01,398 --> 00:59:05,381
their life long, they eat
nothing but bran, which they

598
00:59:05,433 --> 00:59:11,168
take mixed with hot water. That
is their food, bran, and nothing

599
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:12,033
but bran.

600
00:59:36,778 --> 00:59:40,375
Michael Yamashita: I'm in a
Tibetan village above Labrang

601
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:45,193
monastery. And I'm sitting down
with a bunch of young lamas

602
00:59:45,224 --> 00:59:52,169
about to have breakfast. What
we're looking at here is some

603
00:59:52,858 --> 00:59:58,937
yak butter tea. That's the yak
butter. A big chunk of it into

604
00:59:58,989 --> 01:00:12,330
my smoky tea. And this is the
staple of the Tibetan diet.

605
01:00:15,255 --> 01:00:30,598
Not bad. Kinda like rancid milk on
top of smokey tea. Okay, and so

606
01:00:31,022 --> 01:00:36,381
he's putting in some tsampa,
which is bran. Marco Polo

607
01:00:36,433 --> 01:00:43,389
describes this. He describes the
lamas as eating nothing but this

608
01:00:43,441 --> 01:00:48,040
bran. Okay, well, why don't you
guys make me one. I don't think

609
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:53,180
I've got quite the skill. Marco
also talks about how dirty the

610
01:00:53,232 --> 01:00:59,781
Tibetans are and the fact that
they only wash maybe once a

611
01:00:59,833 --> 01:01:07,915
year. However, they definitely
have to use their hands to make

612
01:01:07,967 --> 01:01:14,630
this tsampa. I think that's
enough of that.

613
01:01:18,446 --> 01:01:20,949
Marco Polo's book: They have
immense minsters and abbeys,

614
01:01:20,980 --> 01:01:25,088
some of them as big as a small
town, with more than 2000 monks

615
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:31,438
in a single abbey. These monks
have their head and beard

616
01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:32,116
shaven.

617
01:01:48,477 --> 01:01:52,794
Michael Yamashita: 2000 monks,
heads shaven, beards shaven,

618
01:01:53,576 --> 01:01:59,312
eating tsampa and worshipping
their gods. It's as like nothing

619
01:01:59,364 --> 01:02:04,786
has changed here in 700 years. I
come here. I feel like I'm

620
01:02:04,838 --> 01:02:13,180
seeing exactly what Marco saw.
Well, this is why Marco, was

621
01:02:14,786 --> 01:02:21,052
called or so called Milione.
People couldn't believe his

622
01:02:21,105 --> 01:02:26,621
figures because there were
always 10s of 1000s: the

623
01:02:26,674 --> 01:02:31,877
cities, the populations, the
number of boats, the number of

624
01:02:31,929 --> 01:02:39,165
bridges. They were always so
much bigger than any numbers

625
01:02:39,217 --> 01:02:43,857
that existed in Europe at the
time. Who ever heard of a church

626
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:47,851
in Europe with 2000 monks
praying at one time?

627
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,516
Sometimes these, Marco is
describing things, obviously

628
01:03:05,568 --> 01:03:09,332
from firsthand. This is one of
them. He had to have known these

629
01:03:09,384 --> 01:03:16,017
people and been here to so
enthusiastically describe them.

630
01:03:16,767 --> 01:03:20,438
There are other places along the
route where he's talking about

631
01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:25,255
cities that he passes by, with
two or three sentences, but a

632
01:03:25,307 --> 01:03:29,447
place like this, he obviously
has been here because you can

633
01:03:29,499 --> 01:03:34,108
just read the enthusiasm in his
words, as he talks about the

634
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:34,785
place.

635
01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:37,986
Dr. Frances Wood: I think
there's no question that he

636
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,666
could have written the book
without going to China. Only 100

637
01:03:40,698 --> 01:03:43,868
years later, there was a famous
merchant called Pegalotte, who

638
01:03:43,921 --> 01:03:46,433
worked in Antwerp and never went
further than the Holy land. And

639
01:03:46,486 --> 01:03:49,968
he wrote quite a famous book on
how to trade with China. He even

640
01:03:50,020 --> 01:03:52,377
advised things like taking a
woman with you because it wasn't

641
01:03:52,429 --> 01:03:55,380
safe to consort with Chinese
ladies. My feeling is that we're

642
01:03:55,432 --> 01:03:58,414
not dealing with an eyewitness
account here. I don't think that

643
01:03:58,466 --> 01:04:01,094
Marco Polo went, saw and described.

644
01:04:01,282 --> 01:04:03,200
Michael Yamashita: Certainly
some of the things Marco

645
01:04:03,252 --> 01:04:07,142
described does confound the
imagination. He claimed he saw

646
01:04:07,194 --> 01:04:12,043
people who dined on raw flesh.
This, I had to see for myself.

647
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,063
On behalf of the great Mongol
leader, Kublai Khan, Marco Polo

648
01:04:21,115 --> 01:04:24,723
traveled to Yunnan in southern
China, encountering many

649
01:04:24,775 --> 01:04:29,165
minority tribes. One thing that
astounded him was the fact that

650
01:04:29,217 --> 01:04:36,819
the people here ate their meat
raw and obviously they still do.

651
01:04:37,007 --> 01:04:42,575
But I was surprised to find that
the the animal they love eating

652
01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:48,623
raw happens to be pork, which is
such a no no. I've learned from

653
01:04:48,675 --> 01:04:53,002
childhood that pork always has
to be well cooked. And here

654
01:04:53,054 --> 01:04:58,601
these people for 700 years have
been eating raw pork. And as you

655
01:04:58,653 --> 01:05:05,443
can see by the healthy faces
around here, they don't look

656
01:05:06,068 --> 01:05:07,288
much the worst for it.

657
01:05:20,176 --> 01:05:25,568
As you can see, the kids are
used to it, a common scene out

658
01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:26,246
here.

659
01:05:27,372 --> 01:05:32,908
If you want to eat your pig raw,
you gotta get it fresh.

660
01:05:52,304 --> 01:05:55,036
I love the way everybody
participates. You got all the

661
01:05:55,088 --> 01:06:01,344
kids in here as well looking
forward to the feast afterwards.

662
01:06:04,066 --> 01:06:10,958
So now, now they need to burn
this pig just to synge the hair

663
01:06:11,010 --> 01:06:13,075
and to sort of sterilize the skin.

664
01:06:21,866 --> 01:06:25,400
Okay, now we got all the women
involved in this part.

665
01:06:27,632 --> 01:06:30,416
See the roles: obviously the
men control the fire.

666
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:34,295
These guys look like regular surgeons.

667
01:06:36,172 --> 01:06:44,514
Marco Polo's book: People of
that country eat their meat raw

668
01:06:45,807 --> 01:06:51,355
and put in a sauce of garlic and
spices and so eat it just as we

669
01:06:51,407 --> 01:06:53,002
eat meat that is dressed.

670
01:06:57,757 --> 01:07:02,397
Michael Yamashita: Not bad. How
come you guys aren't eating? Try

671
01:07:02,449 --> 01:07:03,075
some.

672
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:15,505
These women are kind of beefy,
you know. I think, I shouldn't

673
01:07:15,557 --> 01:07:21,667
say beefy, wrong word. They look
like they're well fed. And I

674
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:27,611
assume they must eat quite a big
diet of pork here. I always say

675
01:07:27,663 --> 01:07:31,135
that I can pretty much eat
whatever anybody else is eating

676
01:07:31,166 --> 01:07:36,214
anywhere in the world. And I
trust that those healthy faces

677
01:07:36,266 --> 01:07:40,280
tell me that that meat is
perfectly safe. So I'm not

678
01:07:40,333 --> 01:07:46,912
worried about it. Anyway, it was
an experience. I don't think I'd

679
01:07:46,964 --> 01:07:50,249
make it a regular part of my
menu but in the interests of

680
01:07:50,499 --> 01:07:58,534
Marco Polo, I knew that I had to eat it.

681
01:08:02,693 --> 01:08:05,034
But there are some whoppers
in the book, which are

682
01:08:05,171 --> 01:08:06,579
pretty unbelievable.

683
01:08:07,454 --> 01:08:10,843
Dr. Frances Wood: There's all
sorts of medieval rubbish,

684
01:08:10,895 --> 01:08:14,691
fable, mixed in with what is
generally now treated as a

685
01:08:14,743 --> 01:08:17,715
rather serious geographic text
and it makes it quite difficult

686
01:08:17,934 --> 01:08:19,748
to take the serious bit seriously.

687
01:08:20,718 --> 01:08:23,481
Marco Polo's book: And I assure
you, all the men of this island

688
01:08:23,533 --> 01:08:27,924
have heads like dogs and teeth
and eyes, likewise. In fact in

689
01:08:27,976 --> 01:08:31,386
the face, they are all just like
big mastif dogs.

690
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:36,057
Michael Yamashita: But in China,
there are some pretty unusual

691
01:08:36,109 --> 01:08:38,956
practices that do really exist.

692
01:08:51,209 --> 01:08:54,660
Alright, well, we're out here
cormorant fishing, mainly

693
01:08:54,712 --> 01:08:59,665
because Marco Polo never talked
about cormorants. So we think

694
01:08:59,717 --> 01:09:05,285
that's a good enough reason to
be out here photographing this

695
01:09:05,535 --> 01:09:10,582
unusual way of fishing and
wonder why Marco didn't talk

696
01:09:10,634 --> 01:09:15,900
about it considering it must not
surprise anybody, it certainly

697
01:09:15,952 --> 01:09:22,689
has me surprised. But this is
one thing that's hard to

698
01:09:22,741 --> 01:09:28,445
explain. They were fishing back
700 years ago like this. He

699
01:09:28,497 --> 01:09:32,073
probably did see it if he was
here but neglected to mention

700
01:09:32,125 --> 01:09:38,986
it, then again, you can't
mention everything. Maybe he

701
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:39,727
just forgot.

702
01:09:41,291 --> 01:09:49,456
And, then again at the end of,
on his deathbed, he did say,

703
01:09:50,144 --> 01:09:55,754
I've only told told you half of
what I've seen. So this must be

704
01:09:55,806 --> 01:09:59,539
one of the things that he hasn't
told us. Maybe was thinking

705
01:09:59,591 --> 01:10:01,343
there would be another chapter sometime.

706
01:10:08,601 --> 01:10:15,827
Oh yeah! Oh gosh, you see the
size of that fish! Wow!

707
01:11:02,876 --> 01:11:06,046
After so many years in China,
the Polo's must have been

708
01:11:06,098 --> 01:11:12,084
feeling homesick. Marco, only 17
when he set out from Venice, was

709
01:11:12,136 --> 01:11:17,089
now 37. He knew that Kublai
Khan's health was failing, and

710
01:11:17,141 --> 01:11:22,365
his regime was losing its grip
on power. We're in Zhouzhuang:

711
01:11:22,615 --> 01:11:28,038
Venice of the east. My favorite
time of the day: sunrise. The

712
01:11:28,090 --> 01:11:34,326
colors are warm; the light is
soft; and everybody's waking up

713
01:11:34,378 --> 01:11:37,266
and doing what they do in the
morning. We like to call it

714
01:11:37,318 --> 01:11:43,136
magic hour because good things
happen with the light. And this

715
01:11:43,168 --> 01:11:50,029
particular town really fits
Marco' description of Suzhou. He

716
01:11:50,081 --> 01:11:55,598
talked about the 2000 bridges
and canals all over the city of

717
01:11:55,650 --> 01:12:02,918
Suzhou. And here we have at
least 100 still left. So this is

718
01:12:02,970 --> 01:12:09,581
my image of the way Suzhou
looked back 700 years ago. And

719
01:12:09,633 --> 01:12:12,052
you could see how he must have
felt right at home and maybe

720
01:12:12,104 --> 01:12:19,870
that's the reason why he spent so much
time in this area. It just felt like home.

721
01:12:21,922 --> 01:12:26,264
Finally in 1291,
the Khan allowed the Polos

722
01:12:26,463 --> 01:12:31,385
to leave. They traveled by sea
from southern China via India to

723
01:12:31,437 --> 01:12:35,827
the Persian Gulf and back
overland to Venice. Perhaps

724
01:12:35,879 --> 01:12:41,071
there were epidemics, typhoons
or shipwrecks for only 18 of the

725
01:12:41,103 --> 01:12:46,182
600 passengers of their
Expedition survived. But Marco

726
01:12:46,234 --> 01:12:54,502
arrived in Venice, a rich man,
or so they say. A lot of stories

727
01:12:54,555 --> 01:12:58,288
about how Marco came back into
Venice. The one I liked the best

728
01:12:58,340 --> 01:13:02,917
is he comes in looking like a
beggar. And he is wearing this

729
01:13:02,969 --> 01:13:07,975
ratty old coat. He whips off the
coat and pulls out the lining

730
01:13:08,007 --> 01:13:12,886
and inside, the lining is lined
with all kinds of gems and

731
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:19,091
precious, precious stones. And
everybody then knows it's Marco

732
01:13:19,143 --> 01:13:22,240
Polo, and he's about to tell the
his stories to the world.

733
01:13:25,649 --> 01:13:28,308
Dr. Frances Wood: The great
problem with Marco Polo and his

734
01:13:28,465 --> 01:13:31,509
travels or his discovery of the
world is that we don't have the

735
01:13:31,561 --> 01:13:34,857
original manuscript. This has
disappeared completely. What we

736
01:13:34,909 --> 01:13:38,705
have are a number of
manuscripts, which were copied

737
01:13:38,757 --> 01:13:43,543
from copies from copies from
copies. There are maybe 150

738
01:13:43,668 --> 01:13:47,558
early manuscripts of the text of
Marco Polo, and every single one

739
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:50,248
of them is different. Now, if
you don't have the original

740
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:53,084
manuscript, it's very difficult
to track back to the source.

741
01:13:53,272 --> 01:13:54,804
Where did the stories come from?

742
01:13:56,525 --> 01:13:58,506
Michael Yamashita: Well, there's
one thing that a lot of people

743
01:13:58,558 --> 01:14:02,699
don't know. For years, Venice
had been fighting a sea war with

744
01:14:02,751 --> 01:14:07,172
its rival Genoa. And shortly
after his return, Marco was put

745
01:14:07,224 --> 01:14:13,334
under house arrest. The world's
greatest traveler actually wrote

746
01:14:13,386 --> 01:14:18,621
the book from the four walls of
a prison cell. It was under

747
01:14:18,673 --> 01:14:22,614
these circumstances that this
legendary book was written,

748
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,037
dictated to his cellmate
Rustacello, a famous writer

749
01:14:27,089 --> 01:14:30,540
known for his romantic
embellishments. So perhaps it

750
01:14:30,592 --> 01:14:34,763
was this ghostwriter,
Rustacello, who was responsible

751
01:14:34,815 --> 01:14:36,661
for some of the exaggerations?

752
01:14:38,193 --> 01:14:40,487
Dr. Frances Wood: I think in the
end, we've got to try and make a

753
01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:44,554
balance between the theories, the
problems, the omissions, the

754
01:14:44,606 --> 01:14:48,829
doubts, and the question of
whether he went to China or not.

755
01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:53,710
And for me, it's fairly clear he
didn't. But many other people

756
01:14:53,741 --> 01:14:57,005
feel very strongly that he did.
I think in the end, we can't

757
01:14:57,057 --> 01:15:00,446
prove anything with fingerprints
or DNA by now. 700 years have

758
01:15:00,498 --> 01:15:04,252
passed. And in the end, it's
really just a question of faith.

759
01:15:05,722 --> 01:15:09,111
Michael Yamashita: You know, for
every argument the naysayers

760
01:15:09,163 --> 01:15:14,616
have about Marco, I've got an
answer. And I'm the only one

761
01:15:14,668 --> 01:15:21,405
that's done this trip. It's one
thing, reading about it and

762
01:15:21,458 --> 01:15:25,993
figuring out where he went, from
a library seat back in London.

763
01:15:26,306 --> 01:15:31,165
But when you're out on the road,
you can't help believe, be a big

764
01:15:31,217 --> 01:15:34,377
believer in Marco Polo. He's too
right on.

765
01:15:36,035 --> 01:15:38,329
Marco Polo's book: I believe it
was God's will that we should

766
01:15:38,381 --> 01:15:41,613
get back in order that people
might learn about the things

767
01:15:41,665 --> 01:15:46,119
that the world contains. Never
was there a man who ever

768
01:15:46,171 --> 01:15:49,591
traveled over so much of the
world, as did that noble and

769
01:15:49,643 --> 01:15:54,241
illustrious citizen of the city
of Venice: Msr. Marco Polo.

770
01:15:54,523 --> 01:15:57,088
Thanks be to God. Amen. Amen.

