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<font color="#ffffff">You might not think about it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">very often,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">but we are living</font>
<font color="#ffffff">through a golden age of technology.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Our homes and our pockets</font>
<font color="#ffffff">are full of inventions and gadgets</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that 20 years ago would have been</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the stuff of science fiction.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Alexa, how exactly do you work?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Hmm, I don't know that.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">That's what we're going to find out.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">These things have become such an</font>
<font color="#ffffff">integral part of our everyday lives</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that we've forgotten to remember how</font>
<font color="#ffffff">clever they are.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'm Professor Hannah Fry,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and I want to open your eyes...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'm having a great time!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..to the secret genius of everyday</font>
<font color="#ffffff">objects.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The ones that we take for granted,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">items that owe their existence</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to generations of scientific</font>
<font color="#ffffff">innovation.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The Edison drove an electric car?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Yeah, this one.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In every episode,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'm going to take one item</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and tear it apart, bit...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..by bit.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So now there's some stuff</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you can see.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Meet the people behind it...</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Frankly, I thought many</font>
<font color="#ffff00">things were impossible.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..and unlock the remarkable...</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Here is the clandestine listening</font>
<font color="#ffff00">device.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..and sometimes hilarious</font>
<font color="#ffffff">stories behind its invention.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Hello. Look at you!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This time, it's the bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">How much attention have you actually</font>
<font color="#ffffff">paid to this object</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that you carry</font>
<font color="#ffffff">around with you all of the time?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'll find out how a piece of ancient</font>
<font color="#ffffff">jewellery led to chip and pin.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">He just took my mum's ring.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">She's still upset about it.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Yeah, she's still upset!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Why a man ironing in the 1960s...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Oh, it worked!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..revolutionised how</font>
<font color="#ffffff">data is stored on our cards.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And why we have Russian spies...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..to thank for contactless</font>
<font color="#ffffff">payments.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">A bug? They put a bug in the seal?</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Absolutely.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">So just so you know, we're not</font>
<font color="#ffff00">allowed to say where we are.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">At all?</font><font color="#ffff00"> No.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">This is sort of top secret.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I did notice there weren't any signs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">outside, just barbed wire.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">There's a reason for all</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of this secrecy and tight security.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And it's because we are at the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">biggest hub</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">for bank card transactions in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Europe...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..the Visa Data Centre.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">There are almost 4 billion</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of their bank cards in use</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">around the world, which makes Visa</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">one of the biggest bank card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">companies on the planet.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Have you ever let a TV crew inside?</font>
<font color="#ffff00">No, I don't think so.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">We're in.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Every European card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">transaction goes through here.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">This is where it all happens.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is Rajat Taneja,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Visa's head of technology.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Let's say this morning, I was at</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the train station.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I bought a coffee.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I paid for it with my card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">What happens in that moment?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">We have to verify the credential</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the card.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">We have to make sure there is no</font>
<font color="#ffff00">fraud going on.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">We have to make sure that</font>
<font color="#ffff00">you have funds in your account.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">We make an authorisation decision,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">send it back to the merchant's bank,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">who then sends it to the merchant.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And all that happens in 300</font>
<font color="#ffff00">milliseconds.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In the blink of an eye.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">In the blink of an eye.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">We do that, on an average day,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">nearly 700 million times.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Given my addiction</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to online shopping,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I think quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a few of those are from me.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">That series of checks and approvals</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is only possible</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">thanks to your bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Encoded securely within it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is your unique information.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So every time that you swipe</font>
<font color="#ffffff">or tap or click,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">your details can be verified</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and the movement of your money can</font>
<font color="#ffffff">be authorised.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The thing is, I think all of us</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like to imagine that we have money.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But you haven't got money.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">You've got data, just ones and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">zeros.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And all of that work that you do,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">all of those numbers in your bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">account,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">all they mean is something</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that gives you permission</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to talk to that computer</font>
<font color="#ffffff">over there in the corner.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The digital key that unlocks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">your cash is the humble bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But how does a pocket-sized piece</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of plastic</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">make payments using just ones and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">zeros?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I'm going to take apart the bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">card</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and look at four key components,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">from the microchip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to the contactless antenna.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But we're going to start with the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">thin strip on the back</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that encodes</font>
<font color="#ffffff">those ones and zeros onto the card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's called the magnetic stripe.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">OK. So here's a bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And on the back you have the little</font>
<font color="#ffffff">black line, the mag stripe.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Now, let me show you something</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with this.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So if I take some iron filings</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and I just scatter them</font>
<font color="#ffffff">over the stripe...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And then tap away the excess.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">You can see that the iron filings</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">are stuck to certain bits</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the magnetic stripe.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Can you see that? Almost looks like</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a barcode, and it is, in a way.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's ones and zeros,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">magnetic, not magnetic.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And it contains all the information</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that a bank card needs</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to be able</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to complete your transactions.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So the first bit will be my card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">number, my account number,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">then there'll be my name, my prefix,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and then things like the expiry date</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the security code for the card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">All of that information contained</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in that tiny little strip.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's quite clever, isn't it?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But where did the idea</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for this ingenious stripe come from?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Well, for that,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">first we have to go back...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..to the origin story of the bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">card itself.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's September 1958,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and the residents of the sleepy town</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of Fresno, California,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">are guinea pigs in a bold experiment</font>
<font color="#ffffff">by the world's biggest bank.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Bank of America send all 60,000</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of their Fresno customers</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">a new-fangled thing called</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a credit card.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Credit has been defined as man's</font>
<font color="#ffff00">confidence in man.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But people are used to paying with</font>
<font color="#ffffff">cash and cheques</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and they don't trust</font>
<font color="#ffffff">this new plastic card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And so the bank offer an incentive.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">How about giving me a little credit?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Every card is preloaded with $300</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to spend.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">That's one way to persuade people.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Unsurprisingly, the trial,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">now known as the Fresno Drop,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">is a huge success, as people flock</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to the shops...</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">People are always needing more</font>
<font color="#ffff00">money, more credit.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..to pay on plastic for the first</font>
<font color="#ffffff">time.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Do you have to use this</font>
<font color="#ffff00">exclusively yourself</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">or could you, if you were unwise</font>
<font color="#ffff00">enough, give it to your wife?</font><font color="#00ffff"> Oh...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Probably wise not to answer that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">one.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">12 months later,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">more than 2 million cards have been</font>
<font color="#ffffff">sent out across California.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">ARCHIVE:</font><font color="#ffff00"> Credit card purchasing has</font>
<font color="#ffff00">become widely accepted.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And BankAmericard became a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">company that you may know...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..Visa.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The bank card had truly arrived.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But there was one problem</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with those early bank cards.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Taking payment was quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a difficult business.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">You might remember these.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Some people called them the knuckle</font>
<font color="#ffffff">busters.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">A charge card is used to make</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a sales slip.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But to everyone else,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">they were known as the ZipZap...</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">ZIP-ZAP!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..machine,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">probably for that reason.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And what they do is, they use carbon</font>
<font color="#ffffff">paper and pressure</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to copy the embossed digits on your</font>
<font color="#ffffff">card</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">onto these little slips of paper.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And before any of you smart alecs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">try and pause the TV there,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">those are fake details.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">CHILD:</font><font color="#ffff00"> How does the store get its</font>
<font color="#ffff00">money?</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Well, the sales slip that was made</font>
<font color="#00ffff">out has several copies.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">One copy was kept by the customer</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the other by the seller,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">who would send it off to the bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as proof of payment.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But the system was painfully slow</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and quite prone to error.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So if the bank card was ever</font>
<font color="#ffffff">going to successfully replace cash,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">there needed to be a quicker</font>
<font color="#ffffff">way</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">of handing over our personal</font>
<font color="#ffffff">information.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The solution to speeding up payments</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">would come from an unexpected</font>
<font color="#ffffff">source - the CIA.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's 1961, and we are in the midst</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the Cold War.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The CIA is preparing to move</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into its new headquarters</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">in Langley, Virginia,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">but the giant building poses</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a big security problem.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">To demonstrate, I've flown</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to sunny Virginia</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to have a look at the CIA building.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Not really. I've actually just come</font>
<font color="#ffffff">downstairs</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">in the building I work at to look at</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the BBC foyer instead.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But it kind of works, though,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">because in the BBC, like in the CIA,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">there are certain parts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the building</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that only certain</font>
<font color="#ffffff">people are allowed into.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And back in the day, it used</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to be that security guards</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">would just recognise your face.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Hi, Peter.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Hello.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Is this real audio or are</font>
<font color="#00ffff">we just, like, chatting?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I mean, imagine there's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">no distinction between the two.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">I see. OK.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is Dr Sean Vanatta.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">He's an expert in US economic</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and social history.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Tell me about what was going</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on at the CIA at the time.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">So after World War II,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">with the rise of the Cold War,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">the government agencies</font>
<font color="#00ffff">are expanding.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">And so the old ways of doing</font>
<font color="#00ffff">security,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">where you have a guard at the door</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">who recognises people coming in and</font>
<font color="#00ffff">out, you know,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">that just doesn't work any more.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's quite a big ask...</font>
<font color="#00ffff">It's quite a big ask.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">..for a security guard to learn</font>
<font color="#ffffff">thousands of faces.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But what has all of this got</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to do with the mag stripe?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Well, the CIA asked computer</font>
<font color="#ffffff">innovators IBM</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to try and create a secure ID pass.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">IBM is working on a variety</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of technologies</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">to basically input</font>
<font color="#00ffff">information into computer systems,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">one of which is the mag stripe,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">which has digital information.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The ones and zeros on magnetic tape</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">are just magnetic bits and not</font>
<font color="#ffffff">magnetic bits,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and that's how you store data.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">ARCHIVE:</font><font color="#ffff00"> Once data has been</font>
<font color="#ffff00">processed by a computer</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and recorded on tape,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">it may simply be stored</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in this form.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">IBM had the idea to give CIA</font>
<font color="#ffffff">employees a card</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">with a unique strip of tape that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">identified who they were.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It would be the first digital</font>
<font color="#ffffff">security pass.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">If only they could figure out how to</font>
<font color="#ffffff">attach the tape to plastic cards.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And that is where engineer Forrest</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Parry and his wife Dorothea come in.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">One version of the story</font>
<font color="#00ffff">is that Parry is working.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">You know, his wife is at home.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">He sees his wife, like, ironing his</font>
<font color="#00ffff">shirts, got up and got some mag tape</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">and a bit of plastic.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Put it together, put it on the</font>
<font color="#00ffff">ironing board,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">tried to soften the plastic to get</font>
<font color="#00ffff">it to stick,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">and that seemed to work.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">I just really like the idea</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that man does ironing.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's a big enough news story</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to, like, make headlines.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">That really amuses me.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Actually, most reports say</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that it was Dorothea</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">who had the brainwave, so we</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shouldn't give Parry all the credit.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Now, as a professor, I think</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it's only right</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to do some due diligence here using</font>
<font color="#ffffff">some specialised equipment.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">All right, so we've got plastic</font>
<font color="#ffffff">cards, we've got a bit of mag strip,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">which I don't think I'd quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">clocked</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that it is exactly the same</font>
<font color="#ffffff">stuff that cassettes are on.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It's basically just magnetic tape.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Of course, this is a reference</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that no-one under the age</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of 30 will understand at all,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">but anyway, let's move on. OK.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So we're going to iron</font>
<font color="#ffffff">this on there, then?</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">I think it's likely that we're going</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to make a horrid mess here,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">but we'll see.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Like I said, very scientific.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">There it is.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">So we just kind of put it on.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hold it for a few seconds.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">This could go very badly.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Let's have a look.</font><font color="#00ffff"> What do we have?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Oh, it worked!</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">It properly worked.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Hey!</font><font color="#00ffff"> We did it.</font><font color="#ffffff"> A bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">You might be wondering why it was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that mag stripes took off</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">when there were other potential</font>
<font color="#ffffff">technologies that could have worked.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And the reason is because IBM</font>
<font color="#ffffff">did something very clever</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and very sneaky.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Their ultimate business was about</font>
<font color="#ffffff">selling gigantic computers,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">so they deliberately didn't patent</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the mag stripe</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">so that everybody would go out and</font>
<font color="#ffffff">use it and get it cheaply</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and then have to buy one of their</font>
<font color="#ffffff">massive, expensive computers</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to get it all to work.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And that is exactly what happened.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The ID card success led to the first</font>
<font color="#ffffff">mag stripe bank card in 1969,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">and IBM started making millions</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">from the sale of computer systems</font>
<font color="#ffffff">needed</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to read those magnetic stripes.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Even now, more than 60 years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on from Forest Parry's smart idea,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">a black stripe remains a fixture</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on our bank cards.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But the mag stripe era is coming</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to an end</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">because of a fundamental</font>
<font color="#ffffff">flaw in the technology</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">that has cost banks and businesses</font>
<font color="#ffffff">billions.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I was once branded as Britain's</font>
<font color="#ffff00">greatest fraudster.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Meet Tony.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Tony knows more than most people</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about the mag stripe's weaknesses,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">because he used to exploit them.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I started cloning credit</font>
<font color="#ffff00">cards when I was 15.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I'm now 48, so it was a long</font>
<font color="#ffff00">time ago.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Skimming is where someone takes</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a credit card</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and they swipe it through a machine</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">that takes a cloned copy of that</font>
<font color="#ffff00">credit card.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The mag stripe is so easy to skim</font>
<font color="#ffff00">because it's not encrypted</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and it's just there, open.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is a card reader.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But to people like Tony,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it's called a grabber,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">for reasons you can probably guess.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I would take one of these in to</font>
<font color="#ffff00">someone that I had work in,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">like in a place like this,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and I'd ask them to just keep</font>
<font color="#ffff00">it down the back,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">away from where the customers are.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The card goes behind the counter,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">they swipe the card,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and then they take a clone</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the card at the same time.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">The customer would be none</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the wiser.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">That's how simple it is.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Hold it there, Tony.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So if skimming mag stripes</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is this easy,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">when did the banks find out?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Let's go back to Sean.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Very early on, people realised</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">that copying the information</font>
<font color="#00ffff">on the mag stripe</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">is not any different than sort of</font>
<font color="#00ffff">copying</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">one audio cassette to another.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">If they knew in the 1970s,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">how did they possibly end up being</font>
<font color="#ffffff">popular?</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Within the banking industry,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">there are lots and lots of banks.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">Lots of them are small.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">They need essentially the cheapest</font>
<font color="#00ffff">solution possible.</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">So the mag stripe offers that. It's</font>
<font color="#00ffff">low cost, it's widely available,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">it's easy to manufacture.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">It's worse than useless,</font>

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<font color="#00ffff">it's actually really dangerous</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to adopt this technology.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Banks doing something they knew</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was risky and dangerous?</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Doesn't sound like them.</font>

295
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<font color="#ffffff">Back to Tony.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I had a girl that was working</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in a delicatessen for me,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and on the first Saturday</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that she used the grabber,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">she got 300 card numbers.</font>

299
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<font color="#ffff00">And before you know it,</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I'm committing countless amounts of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">fraud.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And how much money were you making?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">Er, no comment.</font>

303
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<font color="#ffffff">Tony didn't clone the cards himself.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">He'd leave that for a techie</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like Sol.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Seconds after plugging</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the grabber,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Sol has got the skimmed card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">details up on his laptop -</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">the 16-digit card number,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">the name, expiry date,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">everything you need in the '90s</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to make a card payment.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">It's all ready to be put</font>
<font color="#ffff00">onto the card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">And then using a card writer,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">he puts that mag stripe data</font>
<font color="#ffffff">onto a blank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">All I have to do is press a little</font>
<font color="#ffff00">button, swipe the card like that.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">And it's written.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">In total, it's taken less than</font>
<font color="#ffffff">five minutes</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">to create this forged bank card.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Well, that sounds easy.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Where's the catch?</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I was eventually caught.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I jumped bail and I went on the run</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">and spent the next six years of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">my life running from the police.</font>

322
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<font color="#ffffff">Ah, there's the catch.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Tony was eventually sentenced</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to 12 months in prison.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">In prison, I reformed.</font>

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<font color="#ffff00">I learned a lot of lessons and came</font>
<font color="#ffff00">out a different person.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">These days, Tony is fighting</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for the other side,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">advising businesses on how to avoid</font>
<font color="#ffffff">being the victim of fraudsters.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">So that's the story of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">how the mag stripe came to be.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">But with it being so easy to skim,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">we had to find a way</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to make our cards safer.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">The solution - to embed the card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with its very own microchip,</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">also known as chip and PIN.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Unfortunately, you can't just iron</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a microchip onto a piece of plastic.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Modern bank cards need a slightly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">more sophisticated assembly.</font>

335
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<font color="#ffffff">Thames Technology is one of the few</font>
<font color="#ffffff">companies in the UK</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">producing bank cards from scratch.</font>

337
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<font color="#ffffff">From this factory, they make almost</font>
<font color="#ffffff">8 million of them a year.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">Have you got your wallet on you?</font><font color="#ffff00"> No.</font>

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<font color="#ffffff">This is general manager</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Che Colford.</font>

340
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,640
<font color="#ffffff">Have you got your wallet?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Can I borrow it?</font>

341
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,720
<font color="#ffffff">OK. So to me, the first thing that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">jumps out at me is his railcard,</font>

342
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,200
<font color="#ffffff">where he looks very lovely.</font>

343
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000
<font color="#ffffff">When you look at these things,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">they're sort of all the same.</font>

344
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,720
<font color="#ffffff">But are you looking at those</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and seeing different things</font>

345
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,160
<font color="#ffffff">to what I'm seeing?</font><font color="#ffff00"> Yeah.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">So with that particular one,</font>

346
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,640
<font color="#ffff00">you'll see that's a luminous ink</font>

347
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,680
<font color="#ffff00">and you see along the edge,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">it's an orange core.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Yeah.</font>

348
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680
<font color="#ffff00">The colour of that mag stripe</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is different to the normal one.</font>

349
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,040
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, yeah.</font><font color="#ffff00"> So that's how it's evolved</font>
<font color="#ffff00">over time</font>

350
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,400
<font color="#ffff00">with different finishes, different</font>
<font color="#ffff00">materials</font>

351
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,480
<font color="#ffff00">and different</font>
<font color="#ffff00">personalisation methods.</font>

352
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,560
<font color="#ffffff">You know when you're in</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a restaurant with friends</font>

353
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,120
<font color="#ffffff">and everyone puts their card in,</font>

354
00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,000
<font color="#ffffff">I imagine that's an exciting moment</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for you.</font>

355
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,920
<font color="#ffff00">You look at every single one of</font>
<font color="#ffff00">them.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Thanks for your wallet, Chris.</font>

356
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,320
<font color="#ffffff">I'll just hold on to that for you.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Don't worry about it.</font>

357
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240
<font color="#ffffff">I promise we'll get to chip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and pin in a minute.</font>

358
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,200
<font color="#ffffff">But let's just see how Che</font>
<font color="#ffffff">makes bank cards first.</font>

359
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,480
<font color="#ffffff">The bank card starts its life</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as simple blank sheets of plastic,</font>

360
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,840
<font color="#ffffff">which are loaded into a giant</font>
<font color="#ffffff">printer.</font>

361
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,080
<font color="#ffffff">Then, Forrest, or rather, Dorothea's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">mag stripe is added.</font>

362
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,400
<font color="#ffffff">The printouts are sandwiched</font>
<font color="#ffffff">between two laminate sheets</font>

363
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,080
<font color="#ffffff">and popped into an oven.</font>

364
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760
<font color="#ffffff">This is basically a sandwich</font>
<font color="#ffffff">toaster?</font><font color="#ffff00"> More or less.</font>

365
00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:15,480
<font color="#ffffff">What comes out...</font>

366
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,680
<font color="#ffffff">..is a solid piece of plastic,</font>

367
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,480
<font color="#ffffff">which is then punched out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into individual bank cards.</font>

368
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,480
<font color="#ffffff">And now the bit we've all</font>
<font color="#ffffff">been waiting for,</font>

369
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,360
<font color="#ffffff">how the chip is installed.</font>

370
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,600
<font color="#ffff00">And this is where we place</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the chip into the card.</font>

371
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080
<font color="#ffff00">So we create the pocket</font>
<font color="#ffff00">where the chip is going to sit.</font>

372
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,480
<font color="#ffff00">The chip is then glued</font>
<font color="#ffff00">into the card.</font>

373
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,520
<font color="#ffff00">We then do various electrical</font>
<font color="#ffff00">testing to make sure it's live.</font>

374
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,080
<font color="#ffff00">And then that's a completed card,</font>

375
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,280
<font color="#ffff00">so take one out.</font>

376
00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,200
<font color="#ffffff">Look at that!</font>

377
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,400
<font color="#ffffff">How strange to have something at</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the end that feels so familiar.</font>

378
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,280
<font color="#ffffff">We might think we're familiar with</font>
<font color="#ffffff">our bank card,</font>

379
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,200
<font color="#ffffff">but have you ever had a close-up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">look?</font>

380
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,720
<font color="#ffffff">I mean, really close.</font>

381
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,040
<font color="#ffffff">I've got the chip from a bank card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">under a microscope here.</font>

382
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,640
<font color="#ffffff">This is the underside of it,</font>

383
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,360
<font color="#ffffff">the bit that you never see.</font>

384
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,680
<font color="#ffffff">There's all sorts of detail.</font>

385
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,280
<font color="#ffffff">There's the little chip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the middle.</font>

386
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,840
<font color="#ffffff">There's these gold wires</font>
<font color="#ffffff">holding it in place</font>

387
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,560
<font color="#ffffff">and the circuitry around the edge.</font>

388
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,600
<font color="#ffffff">So why is the chip so much</font>
<font color="#ffffff">more secure</font>

389
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,280
<font color="#ffffff">than the more</font>
<font color="#ffffff">traditional mag stripe?</font>

390
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,240
<font color="#ffffff">Well, the mag stripe gives you the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">same number every single time,</font>

391
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,800
<font color="#ffffff">whereas the chip is much cleverer.</font>

392
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,640
<font color="#ffffff">It's more like a miniature computer,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and it gives you a unique code</font>

393
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,280
<font color="#ffffff">every time that it's used.</font>

394
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,320
<font color="#ffffff">Unlike the mag stripe, the chip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">doesn't reveal all the data needed</font>

395
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,800
<font color="#ffffff">to copy the card.</font>

396
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,520
<font color="#ffffff">The information the chip sends</font>
<font color="#ffffff">changes every transaction,</font>

397
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,960
<font color="#ffffff">which makes it far harder to copy.</font>

398
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,600
<font color="#ffffff">It's an ingenious device,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and there are a few competing claims</font>

399
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,320
<font color="#ffffff">about who originally came</font>
<font color="#ffffff">up with the idea for it.</font>

400
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,880
<font color="#ffffff">But there's one story</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that I particularly like.</font>

401
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,040
<font color="#ffffff">It's a story about the eccentric</font>
<font color="#ffffff">French inventor, Roland Moreno,</font>

402
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,880
<font color="#ffffff">because he said that the idea</font>
<font color="#ffffff">came to him in a dream.</font>

403
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,440
<font color="#ffffff">A dream... about signet rings.</font>

404
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,840
<font color="#ffffff">Signet rings were a very big hit</font>
<font color="#ffffff">during the Middle Ages.</font>

405
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080
<font color="#ffffff">And the signet, that's the picture</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the middle,</font>

406
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,960
<font color="#ffffff">would either be a family</font>
<font color="#ffffff">crest or a monogram</font>

407
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,000
<font color="#ffffff">or some really intricate picture,</font>

408
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,120
<font color="#ffffff">essentially anything that made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it really, really hard to copy.</font>

409
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,840
<font color="#ffffff">So then, if you were ever sending</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an important document,</font>

410
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,560
<font color="#ffffff">to prove that it came from you,</font>

411
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000
<font color="#ffffff">you would use this almost like a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">signature</font>

412
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,320
<font color="#ffffff">by pressing it into hot wax.</font>

413
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480
<font color="#ffffff">Legend has it that way</font>
<font color="#ffffff">back in the 14th century,</font>

414
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,840
<font color="#ffffff">King Edward III declared</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that his official documents</font>

415
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,000
<font color="#ffffff">should be signed using his unique</font>
<font color="#ffffff">signet seal,</font>

416
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,400
<font color="#ffffff">essentially an early version of</font>

417
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,600
<font color="#ffffff">"If you like it, then you should</font>
<font color="#ffffff">have put a ring on it."</font>

418
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,200
<font color="#ffffff">Hundreds of years later,</font>

419
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,400
<font color="#ffffff">Roland Moreno would take this idea</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of ancient authentication</font>

420
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,000
<font color="#ffffff">and turn it into one of the most</font>
<font color="#ffffff">successful technologies</font>

421
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,360
<font color="#ffffff">of the 21st century.</font>

422
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,760
<font color="#ffff00">His way of looking at life</font>
<font color="#ffff00">was always different.</font>

423
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800
<font color="#ffff00">You couldn't stop his brains</font>
<font color="#ffff00">from working.</font>

424
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,200
<font color="#00ffff">You sort of had this mad, crazy</font>
<font color="#00ffff">inventor with his crazy hair.</font>

425
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,320
<font color="#ffffff">Meet Marianne and Julia,</font>

426
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960
<font color="#ffffff">Roland Moreno's daughters.</font>

427
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,520
<font color="#ffff00">My father, in the early</font>
<font color="#ffff00">'70s to mid-'70s,</font>

428
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,400
<font color="#ffff00">really had this wish that physical</font>
<font color="#ffff00">money would disappear.</font>

429
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,800
<font color="#ffff00">No more cash, no more chequebooks.</font>

430
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,000
<font color="#ffffff">The microchip revolution had made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">electronics</font>

431
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240
<font color="#ffffff">smaller than ever thought possible,</font>

432
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,400
<font color="#ffffff">and Roland's dream was to put one</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on a ring as a way of paying.</font>

433
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,120
<font color="#ffffff">It would be a modern-day</font>
<font color="#ffffff">signet ring.</font>

434
00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,280
<font color="#ffffff">So in 1974, he set to work building</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a prototype in his workshop.</font>

435
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,840
<font color="#ffffff">And that prototype has been</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in storage for years,</font>

436
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760
<font color="#ffffff">until we turned up with a camera</font>
<font color="#ffffff">crew.</font>

437
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,040
<font color="#ffff00">Seeing these objects for the</font>
<font color="#ffff00">first time in many years,</font>

438
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,120
<font color="#ffff00">it's actually quite moving.</font>

439
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,400
<font color="#00ffff">He thought it would be very</font>
<font color="#00ffff">practical to have your payment card</font>

440
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,000
<font color="#00ffff">on you all the time.</font>

441
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,160
<font color="#00ffff">So he put the chip card</font>
<font color="#00ffff">on my mum's ring, actually.</font>

442
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,920
<font color="#00ffff">And the idea would be that everyone</font>
<font color="#00ffff">could walk around</font>

443
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,680
<font color="#00ffff">with a chip on their finger.</font>

444
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,480
<font color="#ffffff">Sticking out from the microchip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were these 16 tiny little legs.</font>

445
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,640
<font color="#ffffff">The idea was that you would insert</font>
<font color="#ffffff">these legs</font>

446
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,640
<font color="#ffffff">into a reader in the shops to make</font>
<font color="#ffffff">an electronic payment,</font>

447
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,000
<font color="#ffffff">which is great</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for banking security,</font>

448
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,920
<font color="#ffffff">terrible for jumpers.</font>

449
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800
<font color="#00ffff">He just took my mum's ring</font>
<font color="#00ffff">without asking her</font>

450
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,760
<font color="#00ffff">what she thought about it.</font>

451
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,280
<font color="#ffff00">She's still upset about it.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Yeah, she's still upset about it!</font>

452
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,160
<font color="#ffffff">As much as he tried,</font>

453
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,120
<font color="#ffffff">Roland just couldn't get the banks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to take on his idea,</font>

454
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,040
<font color="#ffffff">but he refused to give up.</font>

455
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,040
<font color="#00ffff">So then he had the idea of putting</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the chip on a piece of plastic.</font>

456
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,000
<font color="#00ffff">And so you would use this card</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and put a secret code.</font>

457
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,000
<font color="#ffffff">Does that sound familiar?</font>

458
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,680
<font color="#ffffff">What Roland had invented</font>

459
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,000
<font color="#ffffff">was the world's first chip and pin</font>
<font color="#ffffff">card and reader.</font>

460
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800
<font color="#ffffff">And this is it.</font>

461
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,040
<font color="#00ffff">I think it's a beautiful object.</font>

462
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,600
<font color="#ffffff">For a sprinkling of added jeopardy,</font>

463
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,960
<font color="#ffffff">Roman made it that if you got</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the pin wrong three times in a row,</font>

464
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,280
<font color="#ffffff">the chip would self-destruct.</font>

465
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,800
<font color="#ffffff">Like a real-life James Bond gadget.</font>

466
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840
<font color="#ffffff">Once again, the banks were</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hesitant,</font>

467
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,440
<font color="#ffffff">but there was interest from</font>
<font color="#ffffff">elsewhere.</font>

468
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,400
<font color="#ffffff">In 1983, France Telecom realised</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that Moreno's chip card</font>

469
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,640
<font color="#ffffff">could be preloaded with credit</font>

470
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,440
<font color="#ffffff">and used in phone booths, replacing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">coins.</font>

471
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,560
<font color="#00ffff">It was great as a teenager</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to use my dad's invention</font>

472
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,280
<font color="#00ffff">to call my parents or my friends</font>
<font color="#00ffff">or my lover.</font>

473
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,240
<font color="#ffffff">It was hugely successful,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and the watching banks wanted in.</font>

474
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,840
<font color="#ffffff">So by 1992, Roland's chip and pin</font>

475
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,320
<font color="#ffffff">was mandatory on all bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">cards in France.</font>

476
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,560
<font color="#ffffff">REPORTER:</font><font color="#00ffff"> When the bill arrives at a</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Parisian cafe, you don't need a pen.</font>

477
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,160
<font color="#00ffff">You need a PIN number.</font>

478
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,840
<font color="#ffff00">It changed the way almost everyone</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on the planet daily uses money.</font>

479
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
<font color="#ffffff">Roland got a patent for his idea.</font>

480
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,560
<font color="#ffffff">And when he died in 2012 aged</font>
<font color="#ffffff">66, his company had made millions.</font>

481
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,920
<font color="#ffff00">I do feel proud, extremely proud</font>

482
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,560
<font color="#ffff00">of this invention started</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in a little room in '74 in Paris</font>

483
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,280
<font color="#ffff00">by this crazy inventor.</font>

484
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,480
<font color="#ffffff">He was celebrated in France.</font>

485
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,920
<font color="#ffffff">But it took us a little</font>
<font color="#ffffff">while on this side of the Channel</font>

486
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,120
<font color="#ffffff">to really appreciate the genius</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of his idea.</font>

487
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,600
<font color="#ffff00">I find it slightly embarrassing</font>

488
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560
<font color="#ffff00">that we are lagging still ten years</font>
<font color="#ffff00">behind the French.</font>

489
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,680
<font color="#ffffff">But in 2003, we finally caught up.</font>

490
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,280
<font color="#ffff00">The way we use credit and debit</font>
<font color="#ffff00">cards is to change significantly.</font>

491
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,400
<font color="#00ffff">The so-called chip and pin credit</font>
<font color="#00ffff">card system is going nationwide.</font>

492
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,600
<font color="#00ff00">I think it's fantastic. Cut down</font>
<font color="#00ff00">on all that fraud, yeah.</font>

493
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280
<font color="#ffffff">Chip and pin was such an improvement</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on the mag stripe</font>

494
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,760
<font color="#ffffff">that it cut counterfeit card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">fraud by over 50%,</font>

495
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560
<font color="#ffffff">and typing in your numbers quickly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">became the norm.</font>

496
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,640
<font color="#ffffff">But who wants the hassle</font>

497
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,680
<font color="#ffffff">of actually inserting your card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into the terminal?</font>

498
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,640
<font color="#ffffff">The next component is a secret wire</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hiding inside your bank card</font>

499
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,000
<font color="#ffffff">that makes it possible</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for you to pay with a tap.</font>

500
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,200
<font color="#ffffff">It is the contactless antenna.</font>

501
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,320
<font color="#ffffff">My producer has very kindly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">lent me her bank card</font>

502
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,360
<font color="#ffffff">and I'm going to drop it in this,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">which isn't a glass of water,</font>

503
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,040
<font color="#ffffff">but a glass of acetone.</font>

504
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,440
<font color="#ffffff">Acetone is essentially nail</font>
<font color="#ffffff">varnish remover.</font>

505
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,920
<font color="#ffffff">This is sort of a super-strength</font>
<font color="#ffffff">version.</font>

506
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,160
<font color="#ffffff">And initially, it doesn't look</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like much is happening.</font>

507
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,920
<font color="#ffffff">But because the card is made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of PVC...</font>

508
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,160
<font color="#ffffff">Oh. Whoo!</font>

509
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,880
<font color="#ffffff">It's quite stinky.</font>

510
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280
<font color="#ffffff">..you can see, actually, little</font>
<font color="#ffffff">bubbles starting to form</font>

511
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,160
<font color="#ffffff">on the signature panel, and it's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">peeling away already.</font>

512
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,560
<font color="#ffffff">And I think the mag stripe</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is starting to come away as well.</font>

513
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,520
<font color="#ffffff">It's being destroyed in front</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of my very eyes.</font>

514
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,520
<font color="#ffffff">It's about half an hour later.</font>

515
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960
<font color="#ffffff">And... I mean, it looks quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">different.</font>

516
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,480
<font color="#ffffff">All of the plastic has just curled</font>
<font color="#ffffff">off</font>

517
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,960
<font color="#ffffff">and then sticking out of the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">wreckage,</font>

518
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040
<font color="#ffffff">there's just this very thin hint</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of a wire,</font>

519
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080
<font color="#ffffff">which I think we should fish out.</font>

520
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,360
<font color="#ffffff">Let's try.</font>

521
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,960
<font color="#ffffff">I'm trying to not get nail polish</font>
<font color="#ffffff">remover on my nicely done nail.</font>

522
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,600
<font color="#ffffff">OK, here we go.</font>

523
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,200
<font color="#ffffff">Look at that, it looks like a</font>
<font color="#ffffff">spider.</font>

524
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,880
<font color="#ffffff">Wow.</font>

525
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,440
<font color="#ffffff">There's loads of it.</font>

526
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,160
<font color="#ffffff">So this is what's left.</font>

527
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,440
<font color="#ffffff">This bit here is the chip</font>

528
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,600
<font color="#ffffff">that does the job</font>
<font color="#ffffff">when you're doing chip and pin.</font>

529
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,440
<font color="#ffffff">The really clever thing</font>

530
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,560
<font color="#ffffff">is that all of this wire</font>
<font color="#ffffff">around the edge,</font>

531
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,520
<font color="#ffffff">this is essentially an antenna.</font>

532
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080
<font color="#ffffff">And so when you're using wireless,</font>

533
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000
<font color="#ffffff">the handset gives off a little radio</font>
<font color="#ffffff">signal</font>

534
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160
<font color="#ffffff">which gets picked up by this wire</font>

535
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,480
<font color="#ffffff">and it gives just enough to power</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the chip</font>

536
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240
<font color="#ffffff">to authenticate the transaction</font>

537
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280
<font color="#ffffff">and send it back out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">through the antenna</font>

538
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,120
<font color="#ffffff">to be read by the card reader.</font>

539
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,920
<font color="#ffffff">And the best thing about it -</font>

540
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680
<font color="#ffffff">I mean, I know your card looks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a little bit different now,</font>

541
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,760
<font color="#ffffff">I'll accept that,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">but it should still work.</font>

542
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960
<font color="#ffffff">So I've ordered a coffee.</font>

543
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,040
<font color="#ffffff">Here we go.</font>

544
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560
<font color="#ffffff">Thank you very much.</font>

545
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080
<font color="#ffffff">How much is it?</font><font color="#ffff00"> That'll be £3,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">please. I'll do that for you.</font>

546
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200
<font color="#ffffff">Let's try it.</font>

547
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,480
<font color="#ffffff">CARD READER BEEPS</font>

548
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
<font color="#ffff00">That's all done.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Great.</font>

549
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640
<font color="#ffffff">It worked! I'm so impressed.</font>

550
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,320
<font color="#ffffff">I know what you're thinking.</font>

551
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880
<font color="#ffffff">First, my producer needs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a new bank card.</font>

552
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,680
<font color="#ffffff">But second, how did they get an</font>
<font color="#ffffff">85cm-long antenna</font>

553
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,160
<font color="#ffffff">inside a card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that's less than a millimetre thick?</font>

554
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920
<font color="#ffffff">Let's go back to the factory</font>

555
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,560
<font color="#ffffff">and take a closer look at</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the filling of that card sandwich.</font>

556
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,480
<font color="#ffffff">Is this where the magic happens?</font>

557
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040
<font color="#ffff00">So that is where the aerial antenna</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is</font>

558
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680
<font color="#ffff00">for the contactless element</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the chips.</font>

559
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
<font color="#ffffff">Before the cards go into the oven,</font>

560
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,120
<font color="#ffffff">a sheet of 48 copper antennas</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is popped into the middle of it.</font>

561
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,080
<font color="#ffffff">At this factory, they go through</font>
<font color="#ffffff">thousands of miles of wire a year</font>

562
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,640
<font color="#ffffff">making their contactless cards.</font>

563
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,600
<font color="#ffffff">It does look quite like a sandwich.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Yeah.</font>

564
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,320
<font color="#ffff00">You've got your completed sandwich</font>
<font color="#ffff00">ready for the next stage.</font>

565
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,920
<font color="#ffffff">And the oven then seals it in place.</font>

566
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,600
<font color="#ffffff">The technology behind contactless</font>
<font color="#ffffff">payments</font>

567
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,280
<font color="#ffffff">is called radio-frequency</font>
<font color="#ffffff">identification, or RFID.</font>

568
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920
<font color="#ffffff">And that might seem like a new tech.</font>

569
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,200
<font color="#ffffff">But its origins can be traced back</font>
<font color="#ffffff">almost 80 years to Russia.</font>

570
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
<font color="#ffffff">ARCHIVE:</font><font color="#ffff00"> This is the Kremlin,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">citadel of Russian communism.</font>

571
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,040
<font color="#ffffff">Leon Theremin was a brilliant</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Russian inventor</font>

572
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,360
<font color="#ffffff">obsessed with radio frequencies.</font>

573
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,120
<font color="#ffffff">EERIE WAILING</font>

574
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,400
<font color="#ffffff">And if you've seen just about any</font>
<font color="#ffffff">old science fiction film...</font>

575
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,920
<font color="#ffffff">..you will be familiar with the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">sound of his most famous invention.</font>

576
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
<font color="#ffffff">It's like a crying cat!</font>

577
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
<font color="#ffffff">HIGH-PITCHED WAILING</font>

578
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,520
<font color="#ffffff">The theremin has to be</font>

579
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,000
<font color="#ffffff">one of the strangest musical</font>
<font color="#ffffff">instruments ever created,</font>

580
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080
<font color="#ffffff">because you because you don't</font>
<font color="#ffffff">actually touch it.</font>

581
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800
<font color="#ffffff">Instead, you interrupt</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the electromagnetic field of it</font>

582
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,480
<font color="#ffffff">using your hands.</font>

583
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880
<font color="#ffffff">And that changes the frequency of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the sound, like this.</font>

584
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720
<font color="#ffffff">PITCH WAVERS</font>

585
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,760
<font color="#ffffff">Like a bad opera singer.</font>

586
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,000
<font color="#ffffff">Leon saw the potential to turn</font>
<font color="#ffffff">it into a musical instrument.</font>

587
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,680
<font color="#ffffff">Sci-fi films have never</font>
<font color="#ffffff">sounded the same since.</font>

588
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,920
<font color="#ffffff">But in 1938,</font>

589
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:01,160
<font color="#ffffff">Leon was arrested and accused</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of being a counter-revolutionary.</font>

590
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,320
<font color="#ffffff">The musician was sent to a gulag</font>
<font color="#ffffff">labour camp.</font>

591
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,960
<font color="#ffffff">But what has all of this got to do</font>

592
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,640
<font color="#ffffff">with the contactless antenna</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in our bank cards?</font>

593
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440
<font color="#ffffff">Well, in a secret laboratory</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the gulag,</font>

594
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360
<font color="#ffffff">the Soviets put Leon's physics</font>
<font color="#ffffff">expertise</font>

595
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,240
<font color="#ffffff">to a far more sinister use.</font>

596
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,040
<font color="#ffffff">I want you to imagine that it's 1945</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Soviet-era Russia.</font>

597
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,600
<font color="#ffffff">The Second World War has just ended.</font>

598
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,360
<font color="#ffffff">And in Moscow, the Russians</font>
<font color="#ffffff">have a gift</font>

599
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760
<font color="#ffffff">for the American ambassador.</font>

600
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,920
<font color="#ffffff">Out of wood, they have carved</font>

601
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600
<font color="#ffffff">a copy of the great seal</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of the United States,</font>

602
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,920
<font color="#ffffff">and they present it to the</font>
<font color="#ffffff">ambassador</font>

603
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
<font color="#ffffff">with a group of schoolchildren</font>

604
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,480
<font color="#ffffff">as this great message of hope</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and goodwill for the future.</font>

605
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,800
<font color="#ffffff">It's a gift, essentially,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that the ambassador cannot refuse.</font>

606
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,920
<font color="#ffffff">And so he hangs it up in pride</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of position in his office.</font>

607
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,200
<font color="#ffffff">But there's a twist to this tale</font>
<font color="#ffffff">because, as you might have guessed,</font>

608
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,000
<font color="#ffffff">this seal is not quite the message</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of friendship</font>

609
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760
<font color="#ffffff">that the Russians were pretending it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was,</font>

610
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,760
<font color="#ffffff">because hiding inside of that wooden</font>
<font color="#ffffff">carving</font>

611
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,560
<font color="#ffffff">is a tiny little device</font>
<font color="#ffffff">known as "the thing".</font>

612
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,280
<font color="#ffff00">Do you remember a few years ago,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">when it was revealed</font>

613
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,360
<font color="#ffff00">at the United Nations</font>

614
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720
<font color="#ffff00">that the Russians actually placed</font>
<font color="#ffff00">a sophisticated bugging device</font>

615
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520
<font color="#ffff00">inside the great seal</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the United States?</font>

616
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,040
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, yes. Leon had spent his years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the gulag</font>

617
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,840
<font color="#ffffff">building an extraordinary new kind</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of spying device.</font>

618
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,040
<font color="#ffff00">People come to me when nobody</font>
<font color="#ffff00">else will do it.</font>

619
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,640
<font color="#ffff00">Yeah.</font>

620
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,160
<font color="#ffffff">This is Neil Smith.</font>

621
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,360
<font color="#ffffff">He's an amateur radio experimenter.</font>

622
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560
<font color="#ffffff">Let's start with the most</font>
<font color="#ffffff">obvious question,</font>

623
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,120
<font color="#ffffff">which is, what is "the thing"?</font>

624
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,440
<font color="#ffff00">Basically, it's an unpowered,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">entirely passive listening device</font>

625
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720
<font color="#ffff00">that you could hide almost anywhere.</font>

626
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
<font color="#ffffff">A bug, they put a bug in the seal?</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Absolutely.</font>

627
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960
<font color="#ffffff">REPORTER:</font><font color="#00ffff"> Technological</font>
<font color="#00ffff">breakthroughs in miniaturisation</font>

628
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,440
<font color="#00ffff">have made possible the development</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of these hard to detect devices.</font>

629
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,560
<font color="#ffffff">But why have Neil explain to us</font>
<font color="#ffffff">how The Thing worked</font>

630
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,200
<font color="#ffffff">when we could have him go out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and build one?</font>

631
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,400
<font color="#ffffff">And as far as we know, no-one</font>
<font color="#ffffff">has tried this since the Russians.</font>

632
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,600
<font color="#ffff00">So what the Russians did, inside...</font>

633
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
<font color="#ffff00">..they mounted one of these.</font>

634
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,800
<font color="#ffff00">So this contains</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the little microphone element,</font>

635
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,360
<font color="#ffff00">and this is the external aerial.</font>

636
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
<font color="#ffff00">And that's really</font>
<font color="#ffff00">all there is to it.</font>

637
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,880
<font color="#ffffff">It's not quite as simple</font>
<font color="#ffffff">as Neil makes out.</font>

638
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,520
<font color="#ffffff">Let me try to explain.</font>

639
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,080
<font color="#ffffff">The Thing didn't have</font>
<font color="#ffffff">its own power source,</font>

640
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,960
<font color="#ffffff">no battery, nothing like that.</font>

641
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,520
<font color="#ffffff">And that meant that, when</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the Americans swept it for bugs,</font>

642
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,400
<font color="#ffffff">nothing was detected.</font>

643
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,240
<font color="#ffffff">Instead, a tiny microphone inside it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was activated by a strong</font>

644
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:57,120
<font color="#ffffff">electromagnetic signal</font>
<font color="#ffffff">blasted at the antenna</font>

645
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,280
<font color="#ffffff">from outside of the embassy.</font>

646
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,440
<font color="#00ffff">A wireless microphone,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">such as the one placed</font>

647
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,880
<font color="#00ffff">in the seal's hidden cavity,</font>

648
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,360
<font color="#00ffff">can be smaller than an eraser</font>
<font color="#00ffff">on a pencil.</font>

649
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,360
<font color="#ffffff">That same aerial then transmitted</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the voices in the room</font>

650
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,360
<font color="#ffffff">to a Russian van outside.</font>

651
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,240
<font color="#00ffff">Everything said in a bugged room</font>
<font color="#00ffff">can be tape recorded</font>

652
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,320
<font color="#00ffff">as far as a mile away</font>
<font color="#00ffff">without using any telltale wires.</font>

653
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,320
<font color="#ffffff">How many hours did you spend</font>
<font color="#ffffff">doing this?</font>

654
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,000
<font color="#ffffff">Now, Neil doesn't quite have</font>

655
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,240
<font color="#ffffff">the resources</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of a global superpower,</font>

656
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,400
<font color="#ffffff">but he has spent 200 hours</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in his shed working on this.</font>

657
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,880
<font color="#ffffff">Let's hope it actually works,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shall we?</font>

658
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,280
<font color="#ffffff">We feel very excited to be</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the first civilians</font>

659
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,320
<font color="#ffffff">who are making a Soviet-era</font>
<font color="#ffffff">spy device and testing out today.</font>

660
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,800
<font color="#ffffff">Whether or not it works, I guess,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is a different question.</font>

661
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,440
<font color="#ffffff">Our researcher, Jack,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is going to play the role</font>

662
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,040
<font color="#ffffff">of the US ambassador,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">while Neil and I are Soviet spies.</font>

663
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,520
<font color="#00ffff">Testing, testing. Good to go.</font>

664
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,160
<font color="#ffffff">So this is the receiver?</font><font color="#ffff00"> Yep.</font>

665
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,040
<font color="#ffffff">OK. Hit us with your top secrets,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Jack.</font>

666
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,840
<font color="#ffffff">black sheep.</font>

667
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040
<font color="#00ffff"># Bah, bah, black sheep</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Have you any wool? #</font>

668
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,040
<font color="#ffffff">We are sending an electromagnetic</font>
<font color="#ffffff">signal to The Thing.</font>

669
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,200
<font color="#ffffff">And Neil now just has to make some</font>
<font color="#ffffff">minuscule tweaks to the receiver</font>

670
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
<font color="#ffffff">and transmitter frequencies.</font>

671
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,600
<font color="#ffffff">It's trial and error.</font>

672
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,840
<font color="#00ffff"># Yes, sir, yes, sir</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Three bags full... #</font>

673
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,360
<font color="#ffffff">And there's a lot of error.</font>

674
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,080
<font color="#ffffff">Now, if this seems to be quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a boring shot, it's because no-one</font>

675
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,080
<font color="#ffffff">in the crew can move.</font>

676
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,640
<font color="#ffffff">Otherwise, it mucks up everything.</font>

677
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
<font color="#00ffff"># Bah, bah, black sheep</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Have you any wool? #</font>

678
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,400
<font color="#ffffff">But an hour of listening</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to a hissing radio</font>

679
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,000
<font color="#ffffff">in a stairwell at the BBC...</font>

680
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,400
<font color="#ffffff">It's there, it's there!</font>

681
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,400
<font color="#00ffff"># One for the master</font>
<font color="#00ffff">One for the dame... #</font>

682
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,080
<font color="#ffffff">..finally pays off</font>
<font color="#ffffff">when suddenly the crackliest</font>

683
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,000
<font color="#ffffff">of faint voices can be heard.</font>

684
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,280
<font color="#ffffff">STATIC</font>

685
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,280
<font color="#ffffff">It's it.</font>

686
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400
<font color="#ffffff">That's it. That's it.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">That's it. That's it.</font>

687
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,800
<font color="#ffffff">FAINT GARBLED SPEECH</font>

688
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040
<font color="#ffffff">STATIC</font>

689
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840
<font color="#00ffff"># Bah, bah, black sheep</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Have you any wool? #</font>

690
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,400
<font color="#ffffff">STATIC</font>

691
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,400
<font color="#ffffff">I definitely heard it.</font>

692
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,920
<font color="#ffffff">I think that counts as a success.</font>

693
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,440
<font color="#ffffff">HE EXHALES</font>

694
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440
<font color="#ffffff">Let's go tell Jack.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Shall we go tell Jack?</font>

695
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160
<font color="#ffffff">Jack, Jack, we heard you.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">We heard you.</font><font color="#00ffff"> No way.</font>

696
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,760
<font color="#ffffff">I know that you were doing that</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for about an hour. Well done.</font>

697
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,920
<font color="#ffff00">Well done.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Very good.</font>

698
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,880
<font color="#ffffff">OK, I'm not sure you could exactly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">use us to gather intelligence,</font>

699
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680
<font color="#ffffff">but we did at least get</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a very faint signal.</font>

700
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,720
<font color="#ffff00">It seems quite a beautiful</font>
<font color="#ffff00">piece of carving.</font>

701
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,360
<font color="#ffffff">Theremin's original</font>
<font color="#ffffff">betrayed the secrets</font>

702
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,560
<font color="#ffffff">of four successive ambassadors</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for an incredible seven years.</font>

703
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,760
<font color="#ffff00">All right, open it up.</font>

704
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,080
<font color="#ffff00">And here is the...here is</font>
<font color="#ffff00">the clandestine listening device.</font>

705
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,840
<font color="#ffffff">And when the Americans did finally</font>
<font color="#ffffff">find it, they weren't best pleased.</font>

706
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:53,160
<font color="#ffff00">I have here today a concrete example</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of Soviet espionage.</font>

707
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,600
<font color="#ffffff">It might feel like we're going off</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on a bit of a tangent here,</font>

708
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,040
<font color="#ffffff">but actually this story</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is incredibly relevant to the idea</font>

709
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,280
<font color="#ffffff">of bank cards.</font>

710
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,720
<font color="#ffffff">When you're paying contactless,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you need somehow to power</font>

711
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,000
<font color="#ffffff">that very tiny microchip</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that's in there.</font>

712
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,280
<font color="#ffff00">Yeah, I don't know if you've ever</font>
<font color="#ffff00">taken a bank card to pieces...</font>

713
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,080
<font color="#ffffff">You know, it's funny you should</font>
<font color="#ffffff">mention that.</font><font color="#ffff00"> ..but the little wire</font>

714
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,400
<font color="#ffff00">that goes around it is an aerial,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">so it picks up the signal.</font>

715
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,800
<font color="#ffff00">And because it's quite close,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">it's quite a good loud signal,</font>

716
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,120
<font color="#ffff00">which you can then turn</font>
<font color="#ffff00">into electricity</font>

717
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,760
<font color="#ffff00">to power your little chip.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">In effect, then,</font>

718
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,440
<font color="#ffffff">the bank card is like The Thing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hanging in the ambassador's wall</font>

719
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,360
<font color="#ffffff">and the hand-held payment</font>
<font color="#ffffff">device the shops are using</font>

720
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,560
<font color="#ffffff">to collect the money,</font>

721
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
<font color="#ffffff">that is like all of the Russians</font>
<font color="#ffffff">sitting in a room</font>

722
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,680
<font color="#ffffff">less than half a mile away,</font>

723
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,600
<font color="#ffffff">listening in and transmitting</font>
<font color="#ffffff">electromagnetic waves.</font>

724
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,920
<font color="#ffff00">Absolutely.</font>

725
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,680
<font color="#ffffff">Leon was eventually</font>
<font color="#ffffff">released from the gulag.</font>

726
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,160
<font color="#ffffff">ELECTRIC TONES WARBLE</font>

727
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480
<font color="#ffffff">He died in 1993, aged 97.</font>

728
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,280
<font color="#ffffff">But it was another 14 years</font>
<font color="#ffffff">before the banks began</font>

729
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,720
<font color="#ffffff">to utilise his technology.</font>

730
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,000
<font color="#00ffff">From today,</font>

731
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,400
<font color="#00ffff">these contactless cards</font>
<font color="#00ffff">are being launched.</font>

732
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,640
<font color="#ffffff">Contactless was introduced</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the UK back in 2007.</font>

733
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,520
<font color="#ffff00">Next month, Barclays will allow you</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to make payments under £10</font>

734
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,760
<font color="#ffff00">without entering a PIN number.</font>

735
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,680
<font color="#ffffff">But not everyone was convinced.</font>

736
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,440
<font color="#00ffff">It's not...not much trouble</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to stick four numbers in.</font>

737
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,240
<font color="#ffffff">Now, around 70% of all card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">payments are made this way.</font>

738
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,000
<font color="#ffffff">Contactless has certainly made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">paying for things easier</font>

739
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,120
<font color="#ffffff">when you're out and about,</font>

740
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,440
<font color="#ffffff">but if you want</font>
<font color="#ffffff">even more convenience...</font>

741
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,840
<font color="#ffffff">BEEP</font>

742
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,800
<font color="#ffffff">..then on next component</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is the reason you can buy stuff</font>

743
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,000
<font color="#ffffff">without leaving your home at all.</font>

744
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,880
<font color="#ffffff">The three, or sometimes four,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">numbers on the back of your card</font>

745
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,560
<font color="#ffffff">is a secure identifier that protects</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you when you're spending online,</font>

746
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,720
<font color="#ffffff">although not from those drunken eBay</font>
<font color="#ffffff">purchases you keep making.</font>

747
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,440
<font color="#ffffff">It's the CVV,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">or card verification value.</font>

748
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,160
<font color="#ffffff">So when you make a payment online,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">those CVV numbers,</font>

749
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,000
<font color="#ffffff">they're not stored</font>
<font color="#ffffff">by the online portal.</font>

750
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,560
<font color="#ffffff">And that is because,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">if their database ever gets breached</font>

751
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,800
<font color="#ffffff">or stolen, the long card number</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on its own</font>

752
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520
<font color="#ffffff">can't really do that much.</font>

753
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,040
<font color="#ffffff">You need these three numbers.</font>

754
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,480
<font color="#ffffff">And this effectively, then, is</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like a little signature that proves</font>

755
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,200
<font color="#ffffff">that the person making the payment</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is the one</font>

756
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,840
<font color="#ffffff">that has the physical card.</font>

757
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,720
<font color="#ffffff">The CVV was introduced</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in the late '90s to reduce fraud</font>

758
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,600
<font color="#ffffff">as online payments started</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to become more popular.</font>

759
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,480
<font color="#ffffff">But if you want to find out</font>
<font color="#ffffff">how the CVV came about,</font>

760
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,480
<font color="#ffffff">then you're going to have to head</font>
<font color="#ffffff">back to the murky world</font>

761
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,400
<font color="#ffffff">of the early internet age.</font>

762
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,040
<font color="#ffffff">Imagine a world where every word</font>
<font color="#ffffff">ever written, every picture</font>

763
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,800
<font color="#ffffff">ever painted and every film ever</font>
<font color="#ffffff">shot could be viewed instantly</font>

764
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,600
<font color="#ffffff">in your home</font>
<font color="#ffffff">via an information superhighway.</font>

765
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,800
<font color="#ffffff">Imagine that moment.</font>

766
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120
<font color="#ffffff">The World Wide Web</font>
<font color="#ffffff">has come on the scene.</font>

767
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,120
<font color="#ffffff">It's the early 1990s.</font>

768
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,880
<font color="#ffffff">Just purchasing things</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from your home computer</font>

769
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160
<font color="#ffffff">is a completely novel idea.</font>

770
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,360
<font color="#ffffff">This is a shopping centre,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and here it says</font>

771
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,440
<font color="#ffffff">it's just off</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the information superhighway.</font>

772
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,320
<font color="#ffffff">But using cars to pay online</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was so slow and insecure</font>

773
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,080
<font color="#ffffff">that it looked like online shopping</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would just never catch on.</font>

774
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,760
<font color="#ffffff">And like with any technology,</font>

775
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,400
<font color="#ffffff">what online shopping needed</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was early adopters to drive demand.</font>

776
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,080
<font color="#ffffff">And there was one group who took</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a particularly keen interest.</font>

777
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,320
<font color="#ffffff">Before online shopping,</font>

778
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,320
<font color="#ffffff">if you wanted to buy</font>
<font color="#ffffff">adult materials,</font>

779
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
<font color="#ffffff">you either had to visit</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a specialist shop</font>

780
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600
<font color="#ffffff">or send away for it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with a check in the mail.</font>

781
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,800
<font color="#ffffff">That is a slow old business.</font>

782
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,760
<font color="#ffffff">By the time it arrives,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the mood might have gone.</font>

783
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,120
<font color="#ffff00">If you have a home computer</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and a modem, access to information</font>

784
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,720
<font color="#ffff00">is almost limitless.</font>

785
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,680
<font color="#ffff00">However, some of that information</font>
<font color="#ffff00">is strictly for adults.</font>

786
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,960
<font color="#ffffff">The internet offered a tantalising</font>
<font color="#ffffff">glimpse of instant content</font>

787
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,320
<font color="#ffffff">and instant gratification,</font>

788
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,400
<font color="#ffffff">but paying for it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">presented all kinds</font>

789
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,720
<font color="#ffffff">of new challenges.</font>

790
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,480
<font color="#ffffff">The thing about bank cards is they</font>
<font color="#ffffff">were designed to be used in person.</font>

791
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,600
<font color="#ffffff">There are all sorts of security</font>
<font color="#ffffff">systems like signatures or pins</font>

792
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,200
<font color="#ffffff">to make sure that the person</font>
<font color="#ffffff">who is with the card was the one</font>

793
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,400
<font color="#ffffff">whose money it was.</font>

794
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,000
<font color="#ffffff">And that was all completely fine,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">until the internet came along,</font>

795
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,760
<font color="#ffffff">and suddenly you weren't</font>
<font color="#ffffff">physically present</font>

796
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,600
<font color="#ffffff">when you were spending your money.</font>

797
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,680
<font color="#ffffff">Fraud was completely rampant.</font>

798
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,320
<font color="#ffffff">Richard, how did you first get</font>
<font color="#ffffff">into the world of internet porn?</font>

799
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,800
<font color="#ffff00">Quite accidentally.</font>

800
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,320
<font color="#ffffff">Ah, the refrain of men everywhere.</font>

801
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,840
<font color="#ffffff">I'm meeting one of the pioneers</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of online card payments,</font>

802
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,440
<font color="#ffffff">Richard Gordon,</font>

803
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,080
<font color="#ffffff">who started out in the world</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of adult chat lines.</font>

804
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,600
<font color="#ffff00">I had been hired by a young company</font>

805
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,560
<font color="#ffff00">in the adult industry</font>

806
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,640
<font color="#ffff00">to do some research for them</font>

807
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,160
<font color="#ffff00">as to why they were having</font>
<font color="#ffff00">so many chargebacks.</font>

808
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,000
<font color="#ffffff">Before you get too excited,</font>

809
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,320
<font color="#ffffff">a chargeback isn't a genre</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of adult films.</font>

810
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,920
<font color="#ffffff">It's when a customer claims</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that they didn't make a transaction.</font>

811
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,800
<font color="#00ffff">To talk to two sexy girls</font>
<font color="#00ffff">for only 4.99 per minute, press two.</font>

812
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,600
<font color="#ffff00">25% of their customers say</font>
<font color="#ffff00">they never made the call.</font>

813
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,320
<font color="#ffffff">A quarter of their monthly income,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">people were denying it?</font>

814
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,480
<font color="#ffff00">Exactly right.</font>

815
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,560
<font color="#ffffff">So you call up your bank</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and you say, "It wasn't me,"</font>

816
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,920
<font color="#ffffff">do they immediately take it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">off your statement?</font>

817
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,080
<font color="#ffff00">Well, they used to.</font>

818
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,320
<font color="#ffffff">You could just lie, then, surely?</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Absolutely.</font>

819
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,800
<font color="#ffff00">And that was a big part of it.</font>

820
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,520
<font color="#ffffff">It wasn't just the chat lines</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that hated chargebacks.</font>

821
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,280
<font color="#ffffff">The banks did, too.</font>

822
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,960
<font color="#ffffff">Each one cost about $12 to process</font>
<font color="#ffffff">back in the 1990s.</font>

823
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,600
<font color="#ffffff">So the banks put pressure</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on the adult industry</font>

824
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,640
<font color="#ffffff">to get their house in order.</font>

825
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,040
<font color="#ffffff">HE CHUCKLES</font>

826
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,000
<font color="#ffffff">And Richard was tasked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">with finding a solution.</font>

827
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,440
<font color="#ffff00">We built something called</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Electronic Authorization Systems,</font>

828
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:17,320
<font color="#ffff00">which basically analysed</font>
<font color="#ffff00">every transaction in real time</font>

829
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,080
<font color="#ffff00">to see if there were other calls</font>
<font color="#ffff00">from that same number.</font>

830
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,240
<font color="#ffff00">There were a series of algorithms</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that we had that analysed</font>

831
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,480
<font color="#ffff00">the transactions.</font>

832
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,720
<font color="#ffffff">Richard's system was able to cut</font>
<font color="#ffffff">down fraud by proving the chat line</font>

833
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,160
<font color="#ffffff">calls had been made.</font>

834
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,120
<font color="#ffffff">But then the internet came along,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and once again, the banks had</font>

835
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,320
<font color="#ffffff">no means of checking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">if a card payment was genuine.</font>

836
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,680
<font color="#ffffff">Richard had to devise new ways</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to make sure that the banks were,</font>

837
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,080
<font color="#ffffff">excuse the pun, satisfied.</font>

838
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,080
<font color="#ffff00">The bankers did not want</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to be associated with anyone</font>

839
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,280
<font color="#ffff00">that was involved</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in the adult industry.</font>

840
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,760
<font color="#ffff00">So part of my job was to break</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that firewall down</font>

841
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,800
<font color="#ffff00">and open up the banking</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the industry.</font>

842
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,000
<font color="#ffffff">Before accepting a payment, websites</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would ask Richard's company to run</font>

843
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,960
<font color="#ffffff">checks on the card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to see if there was</font>

844
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,640
<font color="#ffffff">any dodgy activity going on.</font>

845
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,840
<font color="#ffff00">As we developed into the internet</font>
<font color="#ffff00">world, we just had to continuously</font>

846
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,800
<font color="#ffff00">upgrade and monitor the systems</font>

847
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,160
<font color="#ffff00">so that they could stay</font>
<font color="#ffff00">ahead of the fraud.</font>

848
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,520
<font color="#ffffff">Richard and other pioneers</font>
<font color="#ffffff">had proved to the banks</font>

849
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,880
<font color="#ffffff">that card payments could be made</font>
<font color="#ffffff">safely without the card present.</font>

850
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,600
<font color="#00ffff">React now to the demands of the</font>
<font color="#00ffff">internet marketplace or risk falling</font>

851
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,840
<font color="#00ffff">by the wayside.</font>

852
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,160
<font color="#ffffff">But by the mid 1990s, shopping</font>
<font color="#ffffff">online was gaining popularity.</font>

853
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,320
<font color="#ffffff">And so a simpler and even</font>
<font color="#ffffff">more secure system was needed.</font>

854
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,080
<font color="#00ff00">Worries about giving their credit</font>
<font color="#00ff00">card details are stopping many users</font>

855
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,320
<font color="#00ff00">from buying online.</font>

856
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,280
<font color="#ffffff">Enter Michael Stone</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and global credit agency Equifax.</font>

857
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,880
<font color="#ffffff">While Richard's system had used</font>
<font color="#ffffff">phone numbers and billing histories,</font>

858
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,520
<font color="#ffffff">Michael's elegant solution</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was just a number</font>

859
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,800
<font color="#ffffff">generated from the user's card</font>
<font color="#ffffff">details that verified the card.</font>

860
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,200
<font color="#ffffff">But crucially, retailers were not</font>
<font color="#ffffff">allowed to store it,</font>

861
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,760
<font color="#ffffff">so only the real cardholder</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would know the number.</font>

862
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,200
<font color="#ffffff">And the CVV number was quickly</font>
<font color="#ffffff">adopted worldwide</font>

863
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,880
<font color="#ffffff">and is still</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on every bank card today.</font>

864
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,000
<font color="#ffffff">Today, though, there are new threats</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to the security of the CVV number.</font>

865
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
<font color="#ffffff">At Visa Europe's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">London headquarters,</font>

866
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,280
<font color="#ffffff">they're at the front line</font>

867
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,240
<font color="#ffffff">in the battle</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to keep our money safe.</font>

868
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:40,040
<font color="#ffffff">I noticed there's a sign</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on the door here that says</font>

869
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,480
<font color="#ffffff">that this is the war room.</font>

870
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120
<font color="#ffffff">Does it sometimes feel like</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you are at war?</font>

871
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
<font color="#ffff00">We're at war with the criminals,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">for sure.</font>

872
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,400
<font color="#ffffff">Leading her team into battle</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is Natalie Kelley,</font>

873
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
<font color="#ffffff">who's Visa Europe's head of risk.</font>

874
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
<font color="#ffff00">We have an entire risk</font>
<font color="#ffff00">operation centre.</font>

875
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,200
<font color="#ffff00">They're looking at transaction</font>
<font color="#ffff00">anomalies that come in every day.</font>

876
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,400
<font color="#ffff00">So if you could imagine,</font>

877
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,320
<font color="#ffff00">it's a stream of data</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that's coming in.</font>

878
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,480
<font color="#ffff00">Any time there's a spike</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in that data,</font>

879
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,320
<font color="#ffff00">we go in and investigate it</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and say, what's happening?</font>

880
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,880
<font color="#ffff00">Was it an enumeration attack?</font>

881
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,640
<font color="#ffffff">What do you mean</font>
<font color="#ffffff">by an enumeration attack?</font>

882
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,000
<font color="#ffff00">OK, so that's a great question.</font>

883
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,760
<font color="#ffffff">If you think of it like</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you have a locker</font>

884
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480
<font color="#ffffff">and it's got three-digit codes</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on that locker.</font>

885
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,200
<font color="#ffff00">You could roll those numbers</font>
<font color="#ffff00">1,000 times,</font>

886
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,080
<font color="#ffff00">and you're eventually</font>
<font color="#ffff00">going to get it right.</font>

887
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,440
<font color="#ffff00">Well, enumeration is the same thing,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">but with a bot.</font>

888
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,200
<font color="#ffffff">These bots can randomly generate</font>
<font color="#ffffff">millions of combinations</font>

889
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,200
<font color="#ffffff">of 16-digit card numbers,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">expiry dates and CVV numbers</font>

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,840
<font color="#ffffff">until they chance</font>
<font color="#ffffff">upon an active card.</font>

891
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,560
<font color="#ffff00">You're eventually</font>
<font color="#ffff00">going to get a hit,</font>

892
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,280
<font color="#ffff00">cos they're doing it rapidly,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">right?</font>

893
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,200
<font color="#ffff00">And then they take that card number</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and they go buy high-ticket</font>

894
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,800
<font color="#ffff00">transactions like five mobile</font>
<font color="#ffff00">phones, online TVs, anything</font>

895
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,640
<font color="#ffff00">that they can get and then convert</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to cash quickly on the black market.</font>

896
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,960
<font color="#ffffff">This is all automatic.</font>

897
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,680
<font color="#ffffff">You can just set it running and go</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to sleep while this does it for you.</font>

898
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,920
<font color="#ffff00">It's basically our AI</font>
<font color="#ffff00">against their AI.</font>

899
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,240
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, wow. A war of AI.</font><font color="#ffff00"> Yes.</font>

900
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,040
<font color="#ffffff">Incredible.</font>

901
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,480
<font color="#ffffff">Artificial intelligence</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is everywhere in the world</font>

902
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,200
<font color="#ffffff">of modern finance,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and much of it is unseen.</font>

903
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,240
<font color="#ffffff">The more AI machines analyse</font>
<font color="#ffffff">large amounts of data,</font>

904
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,280
<font color="#ffffff">the more they learn patterns</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and behaviour.</font>

905
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,080
<font color="#ffffff">VISA are so confident in their AI</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that they'll even enable victims</font>

906
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,240
<font color="#ffffff">of fraud to get their money back</font>
<font color="#ffffff">through their bank.</font>

907
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,840
<font color="#ffffff">But the criminals are nothing</font>
<font color="#ffffff">if not determined.</font>

908
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,960
<font color="#ffff00">I'll tell you, these guys</font>
<font color="#ffff00">are getting more sophisticated</font>

909
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,960
<font color="#ffff00">every day. If you think</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of how Amazon works, right?</font>

910
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640
<font color="#ffff00">And it can tell you all the sellers</font>
<font color="#ffff00">and it rates the sellers</font>

911
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
<font color="#ffff00">and it rates the goods and contents</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that they've bought.</font>

912
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,080
<font color="#ffff00">They do the exact same thing</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on the dark web.</font>

913
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,600
<font color="#ffffff">So you can just get yourself</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a hacker for hire on the dark web?</font>

914
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,240
<font color="#ffff00">Yes.</font><font color="#ffffff"> I didn't realise there was</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like an Amazon for hackers.</font>

915
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,640
<font color="#ffffff">That's absolutely extraordinary.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Do you want me to show you?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Yes, I do!</font><font color="#ffff00"> OK.</font><font color="#ffffff"> Yes, obviously.</font>

916
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,080
<font color="#ffff00">So this is the account.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, my word!</font>

917
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200
<font color="#ffff00">So you can see BINs,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">expiration dates...</font>

918
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,800
<font color="#ffffff">But the number of ratings...</font><font color="#ffff00"> Mm-hm.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">How extraordinary.</font>

919
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,760
<font color="#ffffff">So there's photographs...</font>
<font color="#ffff00">And there's the card.</font>

920
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,880
<font color="#ffffff">Which means faking card numbers</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in order to steal money.</font>

921
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,040
<font color="#ffffff">This is extraordinary.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Absolutely extraordinary.</font>

922
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,600
<font color="#ffffff">Fraudsters openly selling</font>
<font color="#ffffff">their services on the dark web</font>

923
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,360
<font color="#ffffff">to other criminals and being rated</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for the quality of their work.</font>

924
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,360
<font color="#ffff00">You should ask me how they pay.</font>

925
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,040
<font color="#ffffff">How do they pay?</font>

926
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,720
<font color="#ffff00">They pay with bitcoin.</font>

927
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,320
<font color="#ffff00">And the interesting thing about it</font>

928
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,240
<font color="#ffff00">is they have</font>
<font color="#ffff00">three-factor authentication,</font>

929
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,680
<font color="#ffff00">which is actually very secure.</font>

930
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,880
<font color="#ffffff">I find it absolutely hilarious</font>

931
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,520
<font color="#ffffff">that there is no fraud</font>
<font color="#ffffff">amongst the fraudsters.</font>

932
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,080
<font color="#ffff00">Zero.</font>

933
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,400
<font color="#ffffff">Criminals are always looking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">for areas of weakness in a bank card</font>

934
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,600
<font color="#ffffff">that they can exploit.</font>

935
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,680
<font color="#ffffff">And it's up to the card companies</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to stay one step ahead.</font>

936
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:59,040
<font color="#ffffff">In less than 70 years, bank cards</font>
<font color="#ffffff">have gone from basic bits of plastic</font>

937
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,800
<font color="#ffffff">to sophisticated mini computers</font>
<font color="#ffffff">carried in our pockets.</font>

938
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,440
<font color="#ffffff">But the next big breakthrough</font>
<font color="#ffffff">might mean</font>

939
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
<font color="#ffffff">we don't need bank cards at all.</font>

940
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,720
<font color="#ffffff">Because the future of payments</font>
<font color="#ffffff">is biometric.</font>

941
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,400
<font color="#ffffff">Biometrics are already part</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of our daily lives,</font>

942
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,000
<font color="#ffffff">from going through passport control</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to unlocking your phone.</font>

943
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,400
<font color="#ffffff">And the banking industry is looking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at it</font>

944
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,440
<font color="#ffffff">as a quick and secure way to pay.</font>

945
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,240
<font color="#ffffff">The term biometrics</font>
<font color="#ffffff">just means using your body</font>

946
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:35,000
<font color="#ffffff">as a way of identification.</font>

947
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
<font color="#ffff00">Light.</font><font color="#ffffff"> COMPUTER VOICE:</font><font color="#00ffff"> Light.</font>

948
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,880
<font color="#ffffff">Switch on.</font><font color="#00ffff"> On.</font>

949
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,000
<font color="#ffffff">Now.</font><font color="#00ffff"> OK.</font>

950
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,920
<font color="#ffffff">And it has a long history.</font>

951
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,400
<font color="#ffffff">In Paris in the 1800s,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Alphonse Bethune developed a method</font>

952
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,800
<font color="#ffffff">of physical measurements</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to identify criminals.</font>

953
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,520
<font color="#ffffff">And by the 20th century...</font>

954
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,800
<font color="#00ffff">The local sheriff has picked up</font>
<font color="#00ffff">a suspect</font>

955
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,440
<font color="#00ffff">and promptly fingerprints him.</font>

956
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120
<font color="#ffffff">..using fingerprints to help capture</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the bad guys was common.</font>

957
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,920
<font color="#00ffff">As a means of identification,</font>

958
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,120
<font color="#00ffff">they are absolutely infallible.</font>

959
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,240
<font color="#ffff00">Beats. Bits.</font>

960
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,080
<font color="#ffffff">Then, by the 1950s...</font><font color="#ffff00"> Boots.</font>

961
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,040
<font color="#ffff00">Bats.</font><font color="#ffffff"> ..scientists have begun</font>
<font color="#ffffff">developing primitive voice</font>

962
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,280
<font color="#ffffff">recognition computer programs.</font>

963
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,800
<font color="#ffff00">Bots.</font>

964
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,480
<font color="#00ff00">OK. Are you sort of in position?</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Yes, I am.</font>

965
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,240
<font color="#ffffff">Early versions of face</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and iris recognition followed.</font>

966
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,760
<font color="#00ff00">If you look up here on this bar</font>
<font color="#00ff00">graph, you can see,</font>

967
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,400
<font color="#00ff00">it's 90% sure it's you, Mac.</font>

968
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,800
<font color="#ffffff">Now face recognition payment</font>
<font color="#ffffff">systems are being developed.</font>

969
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,760
<font color="#00ffff">Hopefully, you've felt it vibrate</font>
<font color="#00ffff">when you complete that left turn.</font>

970
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,400
<font color="#ffffff">At Visa's Innovation Centre,</font>

971
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,800
<font color="#ffffff">Richard Tomsett</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from tech company Onfido</font>

972
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,360
<font color="#ffffff">and Visa Europe's CEO</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Charlotte Hogg,</font>

973
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,080
<font color="#ffffff">they want to show me what the future</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of spending could look like.</font>

974
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,720
<font color="#ffffff">What's the big idea behind it?</font>

975
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,760
<font color="#ffffff">Why do you want facial recognition</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to be part of your payment system?</font>

976
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
<font color="#ffff00">If you move to a world where</font>
<font color="#ffff00">increasingly you use biometrics,</font>

977
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,760
<font color="#ffff00">and it can be face, it can be voice,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">it can be your thumbprint,</font>

978
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,040
<font color="#ffff00">it can be the way you type.</font>

979
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,880
<font color="#ffff00">You know, we're unique</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in lots of different ways.</font>

980
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,880
<font color="#ffff00">Once you move to that world,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">you can begin to take out the steps</font>

981
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,560
<font color="#ffff00">that we probably don't realise</font>
<font color="#ffff00">are quite clunky today.</font>

982
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,200
<font color="#ffffff">The face recognition system</font>
<font color="#ffffff">they're developing could be used</font>

983
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680
<font color="#ffffff">to access your bank account</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and make online payments.</font>

984
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,360
<font color="#ffffff">Today they want me to set up</font>
<font color="#ffffff">facial ID for a bank account.</font>

985
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,720
<font color="#ffffff">I've already uploaded my driver's</font>
<font color="#ffffff">licence, which they'll store</font>

986
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,520
<font color="#ffffff">as proof of who I am.</font>

987
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,840
<font color="#ffffff">And a video of my face is now</font>
<font color="#ffffff">analysed by their AI system...</font>

988
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,040
<font color="#ffffff">Lovely. Never looked better.</font>

989
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,400
<font color="#ffffff">..to verify that it's me.</font>

990
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120
<font color="#00ffff">So what you're seeing in front here,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the coloured axes are just showing</font>

991
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,240
<font color="#00ffff">where your face is pointing.</font>

992
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,600
<font color="#ffffff">OK. So that's fair enough.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">You've got a video of my face.</font>

993
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,080
<font color="#ffffff">You've worked out where my eyes,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">my nose and my mouth are and so on.</font>

994
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
<font color="#ffffff">But this is just a photograph</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of my driving licence.</font>

995
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,120
<font color="#ffffff">How do you get enough information</font>
<font color="#ffffff">out of this</font>

996
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,480
<font color="#ffffff">to say that I'm the same person?</font>

997
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,720
<font color="#00ffff">Yeah, that's a good question.</font>

998
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,000
<font color="#00ffff">So this is your video</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in the top left.</font>

999
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,480
<font color="#00ffff">And in the bottom left is the photo</font>
<font color="#00ffff">that we've extracted</font>

1000
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,720
<font color="#00ffff">from your driving licence.</font>

1001
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,280
<font color="#00ffff">And on the right-hand side,</font>

1002
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,720
<font color="#00ffff">the main areas that the model</font>
<font color="#00ffff">is focusing on</font>

1003
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:18,000
<font color="#00ffff">in order to be able to match</font>
<font color="#00ffff">your face to the driving licence.</font>

1004
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,880
<font color="#ffffff">It's basically saying</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you've got a pointy nose,</font>

1005
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,000
<font color="#ffffff">that's what it's saying.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Yeah, right.</font>

1006
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,920
<font color="#ffffff">What if I broke my nose?</font>

1007
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,920
<font color="#00ffff">If you've got a very severe break</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and you look very different,</font>

1008
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,280
<font color="#00ffff">it might cause some issues.</font>

1009
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,560
<font color="#00ffff">But you can wear make-up.</font>

1010
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,520
<font color="#00ffff">You could grow a beard.</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Or have your lips done?</font>

1011
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,040
<font color="#00ffff">Yeah. Or wear glasses.</font>

1012
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,760
<font color="#00ffff">And because of the way the models</font>
<font color="#00ffff">have been trained, they'll deal</font>

1013
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,800
<font color="#00ffff">with that with no problem.</font>

1014
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,600
<font color="#ffffff">What if you taped your nose down?</font>
<font color="#ffffff">I'm sorry.</font>

1015
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,280
<font color="#ffffff">Overtime, then, how much can</font>
<font color="#ffffff">we expect this to start appearing</font>

1016
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,520
<font color="#ffffff">in the ways that we make payments?</font>

1017
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,800
<font color="#ffff00">I think you will start to see it</font>
<font color="#ffff00">more and more often.</font>

1018
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600
<font color="#ffff00">I mean, after we see it today,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">when you're using your mobile phone.</font>

1019
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,920
<font color="#ffff00">Increasingly, we're going to move</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to a world where it'll be a sole set</font>

1020
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,080
<font color="#ffff00">of characteristics,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of contextual characteristics,</font>

1021
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,440
<font color="#ffff00">including biometrics.</font>

1022
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,520
<font color="#ffffff">This app may be able to identify me</font>
<font color="#ffffff">without a problem,</font>

1023
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
<font color="#ffffff">thanks to my DISTINGUISHED nose.</font>

1024
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,520
<font color="#ffffff">But if we want to use tech</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like this in place of bank cards...</font>

1025
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,720
<font color="#ffffff">Hang on!</font>

1026
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:16,280
<font color="#ffffff">..I also want to know</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that it can't be fooled.</font>

1027
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,520
<font color="#00ffff">This is you as a flat print-out.</font>

1028
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,040
<font color="#ffffff">That's absolutely hilarious.</font>

1029
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,120
<font color="#ffffff">So that's pretty persuasive,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">apart from the sheen on my hair.</font>

1030
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,760
<font color="#00ffff">The model recognises it's a spoof.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">As you turn it,</font>

1031
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,360
<font color="#00ffff">it gets increasingly confident</font>

1032
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
<font color="#00ffff">because it's much easier</font>
<font color="#00ffff">for it to see,</font>

1033
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,080
<font color="#00ffff">"OK. That's a 2D flat thing, right."</font>

1034
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,760
<font color="#ffffff">No offence, but that's quite</font>
<font color="#ffffff">a rubbish spoof. Can you do better?</font>

1035
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,160
<font color="#ffffff">What if you had,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">like a 3D model of my face?</font>

1036
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,240
<font color="#00ffff">A 3D model of your face.</font>

1037
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,120
<font color="#00ffff">Well, I don't have a 3D model</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of your face.</font>

1038
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,800
<font color="#00ffff">I do have a 3D model</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of another face.</font>

1039
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,000
<font color="#ffffff">I feel like I've just walked</font>
<font color="#ffffff">onto the set of a bad Bond movie.</font>

1040
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:53,040
<font color="#ffffff">That's genuinely terrifying.</font>

1041
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,480
<font color="#00ffff">It's good, isn't it?</font>

1042
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,640
<font color="#00ffff">And we'll put on some hair.</font>

1043
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,800
<font color="#ffffff">I'm completely horrified</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and delighted in equal measure.</font>

1044
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,840
<font color="#ffffff">I mean, look, I've come home</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from a night out once or twice</font>

1045
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,280
<font color="#ffffff">and looked like that.</font>

1046
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,360
<font color="#00ffff">So it has detected</font>
<font color="#00ffff">it looks like a face.</font>

1047
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,960
<font color="#ffffff">You could probably take it off now.</font>

1048
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,640
<font color="#00ffff">The model has very confidently seen</font>

1049
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,200
<font color="#00ffff">THE 3D mask is not a real person.</font>

1050
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,920
<font color="#00ffff">So the liveness check,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">as we call it, has failed.</font>

1051
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,720
<font color="#00ffff">And I wouldn't be able to pass</font>
<font color="#00ffff">through and create an account then.</font>

1052
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,240
<font color="#ffffff">No, mercifully.</font>

1053
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,600
<font color="#ffffff">The thing that's extraordinary</font>
<font color="#ffffff">about this approach, though,</font>

1054
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,400
<font color="#ffffff">is that the model is just looking</font>
<font color="#ffffff">at examples and working out</font>

1055
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,960
<font color="#ffffff">for itself which ones are real</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and which ones are by you telling it</font>

1056
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,600
<font color="#ffffff">with lots of examples.</font>

1057
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,600
<font color="#00ffff">Yes, that's exactly right.</font>

1058
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,440
<font color="#ffffff">Using artificial intelligence,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">the more examples of spoof faces</font>

1059
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,040
<font color="#ffffff">they show the system, the better</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that it gets at distinguishing real</font>

1060
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,960
<font color="#ffffff">faces from masks.</font>

1061
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,200
<font color="#ffffff">But what about the privacy issues</font>
<font color="#ffffff">around this use</font>

1062
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,280
<font color="#ffffff">of personal information?</font>

1063
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,840
<font color="#ffffff">Are you getting any pushback</font>
<font color="#ffffff">from customers about moving</font>

1064
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,360
<font color="#ffffff">towards this kind of technology?</font>

1065
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,120
<font color="#ffff00">Think increasingly, as you feel</font>
<font color="#ffff00">more secure, as you see the evidence</font>

1066
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,280
<font color="#ffff00">that you're buying and you're buying</font>
<font color="#ffff00">with biometrics and you are secure,</font>

1067
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,680
<font color="#ffff00">then people will adopt it.</font>

1068
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,840
<font color="#ffffff">Presumably, though, at some point,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">you will have a database</font>

1069
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,600
<font color="#ffffff">of an entire country's worth</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of faces.</font>

1070
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,120
<font color="#00ffff">No.</font>

1071
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,960
<font color="#00ffff">So we don't store data</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in that kind of way.</font>

1072
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,840
<font color="#00ffff">We'll only store data</font>
<font color="#00ffff">that we have permission to store.</font>

1073
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,320
<font color="#00ffff">So we obviously have to take a video</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of someone and then it will pass</font>

1074
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,720
<font color="#00ffff">through our system to be analysed.</font>

1075
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,200
<font color="#00ffff">But we'll only store that if</font>
<font color="#00ffff">we've been given explicit permission</font>

1076
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,080
<font color="#00ffff">from the user of the system</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to do that.</font>

1077
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,760
<font color="#ffffff">It's all very well for companies</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to say that they are acting</font>

1078
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,800
<font color="#ffffff">responsibly.</font>

1079
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,680
<font color="#ffffff">But this is new technology,</font>
<font color="#ffffff">regulation is lagging behind,</font>

1080
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,840
<font color="#ffffff">and it might not always be enough</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to just take their word for it.</font>

1081
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,760
<font color="#ffffff">It's one thing if you're just</font>
<font color="#ffffff">unlocking your smartphone,</font>

1082
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,320
<font color="#ffffff">but it's quite another</font>
<font color="#ffffff">when you realise the extent</font>

1083
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,840
<font color="#ffffff">to which data about who we are</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and what our faces look like</font>

1084
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,800
<font color="#ffffff">is being harvested.</font>

1085
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,480
<font color="#ffffff">Last year, an American company</font>
<font color="#ffffff">was fined £7.5 million</font>

1086
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,480
<font color="#ffffff">for harvesting 20 billion</font>
<font color="#ffffff">online images</font>

1087
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,120
<font color="#ffffff">with the intention, probably, of</font>
<font color="#ffffff">using them for facial recognition.</font>

1088
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,280
<font color="#ffffff">I think it's worth asking questions</font>
<font color="#ffffff">and being informed</font>

1089
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,880
<font color="#ffffff">about your own data.</font>

1090
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,040
<font color="#ffffff">Who has access to it?</font>

1091
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,360
<font color="#ffffff">Is it secure? And how could it</font>
<font color="#ffffff">be potentially used in future?</font>

1092
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,600
<font color="#ffffff">Technology never stays still.</font>

1093
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,240
<font color="#ffffff">It changes incredibly fast,</font>

1094
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,720
<font color="#ffffff">and it may well be</font>
<font color="#ffffff">that soon our bank cards</font>

1095
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,280
<font color="#ffffff">will be obsolete,</font>

1096
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,240
<font color="#ffffff">but whatever comes next...</font>

1097
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,720
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, it worked!</font>

1098
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,000
<font color="#ffffff">..we can be sure that there</font>
<font color="#ffffff">are more brilliant ideas to come.</font>

1099
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,520
<font color="#ffffff">No-one in their right minds</font>
<font color="#ffffff">would describe this as high-tech,</font>

1100
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,840
<font color="#ffffff">and yet, hiding within it,</font>

1101
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,880
<font color="#ffffff">once you peel back</font>
<font color="#ffffff">those layers of plastic,</font>

1102
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,080
<font color="#ffffff">it's nothing less than a marvel</font>
<font color="#ffffff">of human ingenuity.</font>

1103
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,200
<font color="#ffffff">Next time...</font>

1104
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,560
<font color="#ffffff">Thanks.</font>

1105
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,240
<font color="#ffffff">The food delivery apps</font>
<font color="#ffffff">on your phone.</font>

1106
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,200
<font color="#ffffff">It's the story of pensioners</font>
<font color="#ffffff">in Gateshead ordering Greggs</font>

1107
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,960
<font color="#ffffff">in the 1980s.</font>

1108
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000
<font color="#ffffff">20p - oh, if only!</font>

1109
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,000
<font color="#ffffff">Pizza that pioneered</font>
<font color="#ffffff">online delivery.</font>

1110
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,480
<font color="#00ffff">Does the pizza come out</font>
<font color="#00ffff">of the floppy drive?</font>

1111
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,520
<font color="#ffffff">Oh, and a little bit of submarine</font>
<font color="#ffffff">warfare and Soviet satellites.</font>

1112
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,760
<font color="#ffffff">BEEPING</font>

1113
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,120
<font color="#ffffff">To explore the interesting dilemmas</font>
<font color="#ffffff">behind some familiar pieces</font>

1114
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,040
<font color="#ffffff">of technology and hear</font>
<font color="#ffffff">some of my own thoughts,</font>

1115
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,560
<font color="#ffffff">go to...</font>

1116
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,960
<font color="#ffffff">..and follow the links</font>
<font color="#ffffff">to the Open University.</font>

