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1.8 million tonnes of plastic
are being made in the UK

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and a third of it is
being made right here.

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Every three seconds, you're bagging
up 25 kilos of plastic.

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On this bagging unit.
There's another one behind us.

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Billions and billions and billions

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of tiny pellets of plastic

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leaving this factory -
today, tomorrow, every single day.

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Where are they going to end up?

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So far, in our war on plastic,
Anita and I have challenged

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a street to ditch
their single use plastic.

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So, are you up for it?

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ALL: Yes!

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And she's taken
their frustrations...

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<i>H .66.</i>

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Oh, God. I spent 69p.

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...to the companies who
are churning it out.

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Hi.

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We will make sure we've
got a competitive price.

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What does "competitive" mean?

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It's like some dystopian nightmare.

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I've been finding out how we
can fix our recycling system.

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Plastic waste that I found
in Malaysia from the UK.

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Yes, that's terrible.

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And now I want to
know if big business

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is ready to reduce the pile.

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The absolute amount
of plastic could double.

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Anita joins two young campaigners

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tackling plastic giveaway toys.

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We want to speak to the
sustainability department.

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They can't, I'm afraid.

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We can't speak to anybody?
I'll talk to you outside.

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And as our street
experiment reaches its climax...

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...we both discover how much we can
all do to kick our plastic habit.

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So, shall we do the results?
Shall we do the count?

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Here it comes...

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ANITA: Hugh and I kicked off the
experiment with the residents

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of 22 houses on a street in East
Bristol three months ago.

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Here's some baskets
for you all, get going.

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We counted all their
single use plastic -

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the packaging that contains
our everyday essentials

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for just a few clays or weeks
before we throw it away.

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From the total, we estimated
the amount in our homes

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across the whole country.

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19.5 billion...

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...bits of single use plastic

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in houses up and
down the country today.

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That's not cool.

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The Streets have been trying to
reduce the amounts of this plastic

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in their lives,

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tackling it in the kitchen...

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Go on, press it. Hey!
Oops, there you go.

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...and in the bathroom.

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That whole side of the bath was
covered in plastic bottles.

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Stuff that we weren't
really using, as well.

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Now, in the final
month of the experiment,

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the street are looking at how
plastic is ingrained in family life.

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At least two thirds of
toys are made from plastic -

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taking advantage of it
being a colourful, durable

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and cheap material.

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Whoo!

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This is you, Ma.

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What does it do?

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Since starting the experiment,
Jackson's mum Carlene

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has been more aware of the number

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of plastic toys he no longer uses.

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It's unavoidable, I suppose,
when you've got family members

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who just buy stuff.

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It can be a little bit frustrating
when you see how much toys he has.

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You've got two of
those, haven't you? Yeah.

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We're going to make a box of toys
that you don't play with,

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is that OK? Yeah. Right.

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So, do you want to help Mummy
choose your toys up upstairs?

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Most of his toys up here,
he doesn't play with.

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Over a quarter of parents
admit to throwing away toys

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that are in
perfect working order.

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But Carlene has a different plan.

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Bye-bye, Mr Potato Head.

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Say, "See you later, mate."

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See you later, mate.

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In the box.

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He had a little bit
of a Despicable Me moment.

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These are all McDonald's. Shall
we get rid of these toys? Yeah.

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You don't want to keep them? No.

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Shall we give that away, Jackson,

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or do you want to keep
that one keep back?

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Keep that one. Keep your car?

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Yeah. Beep-beep!

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Carlene's arranged to meet
up with a group of friends

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for a toy swap.

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Hi, Jackson! Hi, Carlene!

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You know I'm going
to leave with nothing.

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Fuzzy felt faces?!

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<i>\</i> I love this. I

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That's so cute. I might have a
little peruse for my nephew.

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It's a way of clearing
out our house,

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cutting down the amount of plastic
that we would normally buy.

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It's quite a nice
get-together as well.

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A win-win situation for everyone.
Yeah. She loves Peppa Pig!

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Plastic's durability means
that toys can last a long time

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and many of Jackson's are
already finding a new home.

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They've got such a short
window of using these things,

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but they're really useful
when they're at that stage. Yeah.

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Oh, look at that!

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But are all toys
a good use of plastic?

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So, these were
like McDonald's ones.

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I don't think so. No.

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In our house, they
kind of end up in pieces

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and then end up in the
bin quite quickly, so...

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...we don't need any more plastic
like that. Are you sure?

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OK. That's fine.

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Back they go. Not
going to be offended.

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Every year, hundreds of millions
of toys are given away in the UK

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to help sell products.

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They're hidden in chocolates...

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Nine times out of ten, with the
toys, you open it up, make it

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and then, within about 30
seconds, they break anyway.

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...pasted to the front
of kids' magazines...

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\That".l

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...is going to be for you
to catch your little bug.

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<i>\</i> Oh. Uh-0h.l

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It's been open about 30 seconds.

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Rocky managed to break it.

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...and dished out free
with fast food meals.

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How long does he play with the toys
for?

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Not very long. We usually chuck them
in the bin by the end of the day.

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What have you got there? Happy Meal!

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Come on, let's have a look.

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Who is this? He doesn't know.

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Did you play with them
for very long? No. No.

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How long? Five minutes.

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Five minutes?! Yeah.

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So, if these giveaway toys

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aren't wanted enough by
parents or kids to be passed on,

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what are we supposed
to do with them?

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To find out, I've come to a
facility that sorts the recycling

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for part of East London

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to meet the CEO of the Recycling
Association, Simon Ellin.

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The big problem here,
you can see there, toys -

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because if they come through in
the household waste to a facility

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like this, which is not
designed to separate toys,

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they're a contaminant.

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Simon's gathered
together a pile of toys

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that have been picked out
of this recycling stream

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over the last 24 hours.

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There we go. What?!

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That's so sad.

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And when we take a closer
look through the pile...

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Look at that, McDonald's.

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There's another one.

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...I'm struck by just how many
of them are giveaway toys.

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Look at that!
That's not even been opened.

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It's such a throwaway culture,
isn't it? What's this one?

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That's Burger King.

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That's a Burger King one, is it?
That's a Burger King one.

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It's not just McDonald's, is it?

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You know, we found all
sorts of other toys.

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You get the Kinder eggs, you know.
You get it on your magazines.

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They're by no means
the only offender

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but they are, in my
experience, the biggest offender.

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Clearly many kids and parents think
they're doing the right thing

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by putting their giveaway
toys in the recycling.

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I wonder what McDonald's
say about them.

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All right. So, are
McDonald's toys recyclable?

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It says, "Can Happy Meal
toys be recycled?

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"Yes, they can."

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That's the first thing it says here.

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Yeah. Can they?

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Sorry, McDonald's,
I don't agree with you.

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You're saying, "Yes, they are."

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Technically, these
would be recyclable

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but there's so many
different types of polymers,

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polymers that are
bonded together,

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a tiny, tiny proportion
are ever going to get recycled

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because lots of manufacturers
will say it's recyclable.

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In theory, it is. In practice,
it's just not going to happen.

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This has really shocked me,
actually, Simon, really.

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McDonald's add that their toys
with electronic components

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can be put in a designated
electronics recycling bin.

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But even if they reach one of these
at a local authority centre,

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it's rarely economically
viable to actually recycle them,

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and the non-electronic
toys contain mixed plastic

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so they're also most likely to end
up being incinerated or in landfill.

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Would you believe now McDonald's
are the biggest distributors

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of toys in the world?

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No, they're not?!

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1.4 billion toys
with their Happy Meals.

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Simon, you've just blown my mind.
Yeah.

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McDonald's?! McDonald's.

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They've got to take the lead
on this and they've got to say...

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The solution is in the
hands of the producer.

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Where are they going
to end up? In landfill?

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Being burnt?

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They're just churning them out.

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Churning out billions of the things,

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and kids aren't even opening
the blooming packets.

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It's madness!

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When I write to McDonald's
about the issue,

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they reply insisting that,

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when families are finished
playing with them,

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many of the toys can be recycled
in local authority sites

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where the appropriate
facilities are available.

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It's not just the recycling industry

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that feel that giveaway
toys are a problem.

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I've read an article

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about two girls who are campaigning

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against single use plastic toys.

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I was so impressed

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that I've come all the
way down to Southampton

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specifically to meet them,

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and what will surprise you,
as it did me...

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...is their ages.

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Hi. Hello, girls. Hello.
How are you doing?

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Hi, there. Hello. Hi.

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You must be...

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At nine and seven years old,
Ella and Caitlin

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are the youngest
campaigners I've ever met.

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Come on, then.

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Shall we sit down? Yeah.

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So, girls, tell me
what you've been up to.

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So, we've been doing a
plastic petition thing

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against, like,
Burger King and McDonald's

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using their plastic
toys in kids meals...

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...and we've got quite
a few signatures.

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I thought kids loved toys.

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What's the problem with these toys?

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Dangerous plastic.

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It pollutes the world

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when you drop it on the floor

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and it goes to the sea
and hurts the fishes.

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Shall we have a look at
the petition? Yeah. OK.

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How many signatures have you got?

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BOTH: 163,572.

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What?!

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That's incredible.

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Yes.

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You've definitely
tapped into something.

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So, what are you going to do next?

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Probably write a letter. Good idea.

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Who would you write a letter to?
McDonald's. And Burger King,

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and ask to, like, meet up or
tell them about the petition,

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or something like that.

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I think that's a really good idea.
OK. I'll go and get some paper.

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"To McDonald's...

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"..we're writing to
tell you we think...

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"..your toys are bad
for the environment..."

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"..and we think you should stop
selling them with your kids meals.

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"We would like to meet you to
discuss it, from Ella and Caitlin."

250
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So, we're ready? We're going
to send one to Burger King.

251
00:12:00,647 --> 00:12:03,397
One to McDonald's. Yep.
See what happens. Yeah.

252
00:12:03,397 --> 00:12:06,527
Imagine if I came back and
said, "We'd like to meet you."

253
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Can I come with you?

254
00:12:07,958 --> 00:12:09,728
Yeah. Yeah?

255
00:12:09,728 --> 00:12:11,447
OK. Excellent.

256
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All we need now is a stamp

257
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and to close the envelopes.

258
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I'll be very interested to hear

259
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how Burger King and McDonald's reply

260
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to these two young campaigners.

261
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HUGH: For months now,
I've been investigating

262
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what happens to single use plastics

263
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after we've finished with them,

264
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and I've discovered that
our recycling system

265
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needs an urgent overhaul.

266
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In Malaysia, I was
shocked to discover

267
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where some of it has been ending up.

268
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Oh, Sainsbury's.

269
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Sainsbury's.

270
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Sainsbury's.

271
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M&S Yorkshire puddings.

272
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Like many developed countries,

273
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we've been sending most of our
plastic for recycling abroad

274
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because we just don't have the
capacity to deal with it at home.

275
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Looks to me like the whole
of this wall is from the UK.

276
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Stop the exporting of your
plastic waste to our country.

277
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Why should our waste end up here
for you guys to deal with? Yes.

278
00:13:19,667 --> 00:13:22,268
How have we arrived at this madness?

279
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Our love affair with
plastic took off in the 1950s.

280
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Here it is, the most amazing
food wrap ever developed.

281
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Limited only by the
imagination of the minds of men.

282
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Over just a few decades,

283
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it found its way into
every part of our home.

284
00:13:41,748 --> 00:13:44,578
And as the production
of plastics boomed...

285
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The age of plastics can certainly
be described as, "Right now."

286
00:13:47,858 --> 00:13:50,417
...its low cost and
promise of convenience

287
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meant we could treat it
more and more expendably.

288
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Being disposable,

289
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there are no empties to collect.

290
00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,058
Saran-Wrap is a product
of the Dow Chemical Company.

291
00:14:05,217 --> 00:14:09,748
What's often called "virgin plastic"
is made from oil and gas

292
00:14:09,748 --> 00:14:12,938
by a handful of large
petrochemical companies.

293
00:14:14,547 --> 00:14:17,828
Now that we're aware of the
issue of plastic pollution,

294
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it seems reasonable to expect

295
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we might be slowing down the rate

296
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that we're producing the stuff.

297
00:14:23,828 --> 00:14:28,268
So, what are the plastic
industry's plans for the future?

298
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I've just been sent a graph

299
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which shows they're not planning
to slow down any time soon.

300
00:14:33,667 --> 00:14:35,547
I mean, the graph
is going like that.

301
00:14:35,547 --> 00:14:39,388
A leading environmental scientist
at the University of California

302
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has pulled together the global data

303
00:14:41,667 --> 00:14:43,778
on plastic production

304
00:14:43,778 --> 00:14:47,028
and it reveals that the rate of
increase is ramping up.

305
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From the beginning
of this century to now,

306
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plastic production has doubled,
from 200 million tonnes per year

307
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to passing 400 million tonnes,

308
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and it's accelerating

309
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so that it's due to double again,

310
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passing the 800 million tonnes
a year mark by about 2040.

311
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The graph was sent to
me by the president

312
00:15:09,467 --> 00:15:12,297
of the Center for
International Environmental Law

313
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Carroll Muffett.

314
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So, the plastics industry

315
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has plans for massive expansion.

316
00:15:17,908 --> 00:15:19,908
What is driving that?

317
00:15:19,908 --> 00:15:22,417
In a word, the fracking boom.

318
00:15:22,417 --> 00:15:26,308
Fracking for shale gas has made
natural gas really, really cheap

319
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and, as a result, it's made
the plastics feedstocks

320
00:15:29,217 --> 00:15:30,908
really, really cheap,

321
00:15:30,908 --> 00:15:33,417
and that is driving a massive
expansion in the infrastructure

322
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to make new plastics.

323
00:15:35,498 --> 00:15:38,828
So, fracking for shale gas
is making plastics cheaper?

324
00:15:38,828 --> 00:15:42,217
Over the next few years, we
will see more than $200 billion

325
00:15:42,217 --> 00:15:46,138
in new investments for plastics
and petrochemicals.

326
00:15:46,138 --> 00:15:48,618
Wow, this is a lot to take on board.

327
00:15:48,618 --> 00:15:51,547
I just had no idea what
the scale of this issue is.

328
00:15:51,547 --> 00:15:53,388
It was nice talking with you.

329
00:15:53,388 --> 00:15:56,978
If shale gas is behind a new
plastics boom in the US,

330
00:15:56,978 --> 00:15:59,417
what's happening here in the UK?

331
00:15:59,417 --> 00:16:05,308
Carroll suggests I look
up a company called lneos.

332
00:16:05,308 --> 00:16:07,938
Ineos, the word
for chemicals.

333
00:16:07,938 --> 00:16:10,138
Jim Radcliffe, a profile by...

334
00:16:10,138 --> 00:16:13,547
Jim Radcliffe?! I've
heard ofjim Radcliffe!

335
00:16:13,547 --> 00:16:15,108
Jim Radcliffe owns lneos.

336
00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:18,778
Jim Radcliffe is
Britain's richest man.

337
00:16:18,778 --> 00:16:20,858
"Many of the things
you used during the day

338
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"that are made using chemicals,
we've had a hand in,"

339
00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:24,667
he says with a smile.

340
00:16:25,828 --> 00:16:27,297
Plastics, Radcliffe.

341
00:16:27,297 --> 00:16:28,978
OK, here we go.

342
00:16:30,108 --> 00:16:31,138
"Dear Sirjim..."

343
00:16:34,578 --> 00:16:36,938
20% of lneos' plastic business

344
00:16:36,938 --> 00:16:39,217
is making plastic packaging.

345
00:16:40,618 --> 00:16:43,028
And just one of their facilities

346
00:16:43,028 --> 00:16:47,698
is responsible for a third of
the 1.8 million tonnes of plastic

347
00:16:47,698 --> 00:16:50,618
produced in the UK every year,

348
00:16:50,618 --> 00:16:54,308
so I'm delighted when they say
they're happy for me to visit

349
00:16:54,308 --> 00:16:56,388
that site at
Grangemouth in Scotland.

350
00:16:57,828 --> 00:17:00,618
I know, from experience,
that, when you get invited in

351
00:17:00,618 --> 00:17:05,058
by a big company like this, there's
always a story they want to tell.

352
00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:07,337
I'm expecting it to be pretty slick.

353
00:17:07,337 --> 00:17:11,028
A big, shiny, plastic future
for us all to be proud of,

354
00:17:11,028 --> 00:17:13,417
but I've also got some
questions about that future,

355
00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:17,778
and tomorrow I'm allowed in to
see it all close up for myself.

356
00:17:23,898 --> 00:17:28,567
Bright and early, I meet one
of lneos' directors, Tom Crotty...

357
00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:30,698
Good morning to you.
Hugh, welcome to Grangemouth.

358
00:17:30,698 --> 00:17:32,188
Thank you very much.

359
00:17:32,188 --> 00:17:35,858
...and I can't help but notice
an impressive model ship.

360
00:17:35,858 --> 00:17:37,578
These lneos boats...

361
00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:42,565
This is a scale model of one of our
12 dragon ships, made in China,

362
00:17:42,589 --> 00:17:46,057
all designed to bring gas
from the United States

363
00:17:46,057 --> 00:17:48,187
into Europe. Right to the site here?

364
00:17:48,187 --> 00:17:49,546
Yes, absolutely to the site.

365
00:17:49,546 --> 00:17:51,827
They come all the way up the
Firth of Forth.

366
00:17:51,827 --> 00:17:53,937
There isn't one in
today but this is a video

367
00:17:53,937 --> 00:17:56,497
of when we actually
had the first one coming in.

368
00:17:56,497 --> 00:17:58,257
There's the tug in front of it.

369
00:17:58,257 --> 00:18:01,137
Here it comes under the
iconic Forth Bridge.

370
00:18:01,137 --> 00:18:04,187
These are coming in all the time.

371
00:18:04,187 --> 00:18:08,546
It's a virtual pipeline, constantly
flowing gas from America.

372
00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:09,897
Extraordinary.

373
00:18:09,897 --> 00:18:12,466
So, cheap American shale gas

374
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:15,307
is already flowing
directly to our shores.

375
00:18:17,137 --> 00:18:20,577
Ineos have spent
$1 billion on these ships

376
00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:22,466
to bring in the very resource

377
00:18:22,466 --> 00:18:25,536
that's super charging plastics
production in the States.

378
00:18:30,747 --> 00:18:33,216
As Tom takes me into the facility...

379
00:18:37,897 --> 00:18:43,187
...he explains that lneos have spent
another half a billion dollars

380
00:18:43,187 --> 00:18:45,666
on upgrading it to
receive the imported gas.

381
00:18:46,827 --> 00:18:50,807
This includes building
Europe's largest ethane tank,

382
00:18:50,807 --> 00:18:52,557
where the gas is stored

383
00:18:52,557 --> 00:18:55,577
before being fed to the
heart of the process.

384
00:18:55,577 --> 00:18:57,446
This is the cracker.

385
00:18:57,446 --> 00:19:01,497
We take the ethane gas, heat it
up to about a thousand degrees

386
00:19:01,497 --> 00:19:03,857
and that cracks it
into smaller molecules -

387
00:19:03,857 --> 00:19:07,757
and those molecules can then
be compressed and cooled down

388
00:19:07,757 --> 00:19:10,037
into primarily ethylene.

389
00:19:11,927 --> 00:19:14,196
And this block beyond,
is that another cracker?

390
00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:15,757
When we didn't have enough gas,

391
00:19:15,757 --> 00:19:18,396
when we were just relying
on the North Sea,

392
00:19:18,396 --> 00:19:20,837
Train 2 was
closed down, mothballed,

393
00:19:20,837 --> 00:19:22,196
and we just ran this one.

394
00:19:22,196 --> 00:19:24,677
Since we've had the ethane
coming in from America,

395
00:19:24,677 --> 00:19:26,557
we can now run both.

396
00:19:26,557 --> 00:19:28,117
You've doubled your production

397
00:19:28,117 --> 00:19:30,677
by being able to switch
on the second train.

398
00:19:30,677 --> 00:19:33,396
We are actually in the process
of adding more furnace capacity.

399
00:19:33,396 --> 00:19:36,677
So there is room for some
more growth? There is still room.

400
00:19:36,677 --> 00:19:39,516
What are your power requirements
to keep this plant running?

401
00:19:39,516 --> 00:19:41,927
To keep the whole site running,

402
00:19:41,927 --> 00:19:45,196
we'd be using the same sort of
power as, say, three major
Scottish cities -

403
00:19:45,196 --> 00:19:47,957
Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen.
Combined? Combined, yeah.

404
00:19:47,957 --> 00:19:50,446
That's the amount of electricity
being used here? Yes.

405
00:19:50,446 --> 00:19:53,007
And that's before you even
get to the gas that's... Correct.

406
00:19:53,007 --> 00:19:55,367
...creating the thousand degrees
to do the cracking?

407
00:19:55,367 --> 00:19:56,597
That's absolutely right.

408
00:19:56,597 --> 00:20:00,557
99% of all plastic is made
from oil and gas,

409
00:20:00,557 --> 00:20:05,367
but making it also burns
vast amounts of fossil fuels.

410
00:20:05,367 --> 00:20:10,287
If plastics production continues
to grow as predicted, by 2050

411
00:20:10,287 --> 00:20:15,007
it'll be responsible for 15%
of global carbon emissions.

412
00:20:17,287 --> 00:20:20,007
So, this is the end of the process
effectively, Hugh.

413
00:20:20,007 --> 00:20:22,837
The ethylene has now been formed
into long chains of molecules,

414
00:20:22,837 --> 00:20:26,037
becoming the solid
polymer we call plastic.

415
00:20:26,037 --> 00:20:28,516
This is still quite warm.

416
00:20:28,516 --> 00:20:32,157
So this is polyethylene?
That is polyethylene,

417
00:20:32,157 --> 00:20:35,196
the most commonly
used plastic in the world.

418
00:20:35,196 --> 00:20:37,087
It's quite mesmerising,

419
00:20:37,087 --> 00:20:39,396
just watching these bags fill up
so quickly.

420
00:20:39,396 --> 00:20:41,757
I think you're filling one
every three seconds.

421
00:20:41,757 --> 00:20:43,516
That sounds about right.

422
00:20:43,516 --> 00:20:45,396
That's phenomenal.

423
00:20:45,396 --> 00:20:49,117
Every three seconds, you're bagging
up 25 kilos of plastic?

424
00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:52,416
On this bagging unit.
And there's another one behind us.

425
00:20:54,897 --> 00:20:59,497
In total, the plant produces a
mind-boggling 60 to 70 billion

426
00:20:59,497 --> 00:21:02,747
plastic pellets every day.

427
00:21:04,057 --> 00:21:08,107
We're in a world where people
everywhere are just becoming aware

428
00:21:08,107 --> 00:21:10,617
of the problems being caused
by plastic. Yes.

429
00:21:10,617 --> 00:21:13,897
Do you ever wonder when you hear
the latest story

430
00:21:13,897 --> 00:21:17,177
of some obscure fish that's been
pulled out of the deepest trench

431
00:21:17,177 --> 00:21:20,897
in the ocean and has been found to
have tiny micro plastics in its gut.

432
00:21:20,897 --> 00:21:24,137
Do you ever think to yourself,
I wonder if those plastics came

433
00:21:24,137 --> 00:21:26,416
from Grangemouth, from lneos?

434
00:21:26,416 --> 00:21:29,387
We wonder about those issues
all the time.

435
00:21:29,387 --> 00:21:32,697
The fundamental for me is why
do we end up with plastics

436
00:21:32,697 --> 00:21:35,777
in the ocean, which is not
where they should be?

437
00:21:35,777 --> 00:21:37,897
I mean, plastics per se
are not a problem.

438
00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:40,466
Waste plastic and littering
is the problem.

439
00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:42,387
We have to address that.

440
00:21:42,387 --> 00:21:44,666
You are... By proper recycling.
You are the source.

441
00:21:44,666 --> 00:21:46,057
Yeah. It's not enough,

442
00:21:46,057 --> 00:21:48,777
when the bath is overflowing
and the water is flooding

443
00:21:48,777 --> 00:21:50,497
and damaging the buildings... Sure.

444
00:21:50,497 --> 00:21:52,307
...it's not enough just to be
mopping up.

445
00:21:52,307 --> 00:21:54,307
We have to turn off the tap.

446
00:21:54,307 --> 00:21:56,857
You are the tap, lneos is one
of the big plastic taps

447
00:21:56,857 --> 00:21:59,107
on the planet.

448
00:21:59,107 --> 00:22:02,307
Shouldn't we be reducing production,
looking at other innovations

449
00:22:02,307 --> 00:22:05,257
that don't involve the spread
of plastics across the planet?

450
00:22:05,257 --> 00:22:07,666
We're looking at all
of those things.

451
00:22:07,666 --> 00:22:09,857
There's no point in turning
the tap off because you stop

452
00:22:09,857 --> 00:22:11,307
the good with the bad.

453
00:22:11,307 --> 00:22:13,387
I'll give you a very good example.

454
00:22:13,387 --> 00:22:16,416
Polyethylene going into water pipes.

455
00:22:16,416 --> 00:22:19,927
Water pipes have transformed water
management around the world.

456
00:22:19,927 --> 00:22:22,307
Aeroplanes are becoming
increasingly plastic.

457
00:22:22,307 --> 00:22:23,747
That's helping the fuel economy.

458
00:22:23,747 --> 00:22:26,466
So those are the sorts of
applications that we're developing

459
00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:28,857
new polymers for, not plastic bags
and plastic straws.

460
00:22:28,857 --> 00:22:30,777
That's no interest
to us at all.

461
00:22:30,777 --> 00:22:33,307
But you do do plastic packaging.
It's 20% of your business.

462
00:22:33,307 --> 00:22:35,747
20% of our business overall
is plastic packaging.

463
00:22:35,747 --> 00:22:38,416
You've got a company called
Styrolution, who make some

464
00:22:38,416 --> 00:22:41,617
of the products that are known
to cause real problems in the waste

465
00:22:41,617 --> 00:22:44,497
chain, like these shrink wrap
plastics that go round

466
00:22:44,497 --> 00:22:47,747
water bottles, cosmetics bottles,

467
00:22:47,747 --> 00:22:50,536
this kind of flexible
film packaging.

468
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:53,497
These are the known miscreants
of the plastic world and you're not

469
00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:55,777
only supplying plastics
for these products,

470
00:22:55,777 --> 00:22:57,666
you're manufacturing the products.

471
00:22:57,666 --> 00:22:59,857
Shouldn't you be backing
off that kind of product

472
00:22:59,857 --> 00:23:02,817
and using your extraordinary
resources and wealth to create

473
00:23:02,817 --> 00:23:04,777
solutions to these problems?

474
00:23:04,777 --> 00:23:07,586
100% of every piece of polymer
we produce is recyclable

475
00:23:07,586 --> 00:23:09,387
when it leaves us.

476
00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:12,497
What we're trying to do is work
with packaging designers, work

477
00:23:12,497 --> 00:23:16,307
with consumer products companies,
to improve the recyclability.

478
00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:19,257
The other area we're doing a huge
amount to work on is to say

479
00:23:19,257 --> 00:23:22,977
can we take back all of that plastic
or most of that plastic and put

480
00:23:22,977 --> 00:23:25,137
it back through our chemical
systems,

481
00:23:25,137 --> 00:23:27,947
break it right back down
constituent parts

482
00:23:27,947 --> 00:23:29,666
and make plastic again?

483
00:23:29,666 --> 00:23:32,307
We don't care whether we make
plastic from gas or we make plastic

484
00:23:32,307 --> 00:23:33,777
from old plastic.

485
00:23:33,777 --> 00:23:37,307
If we can solve chemical recycling,
we can close that loop completely.

486
00:23:37,307 --> 00:23:39,977
How close are you to solving it?

487
00:23:39,977 --> 00:23:42,697
I'd say we're two or three
years away from that.

488
00:23:42,697 --> 00:23:47,177
The mantra about closing the loop
with chemical recycling of our used

489
00:23:47,177 --> 00:23:49,697
plastics is well rehearsed

490
00:23:49,697 --> 00:23:52,206
but everything I've seen here,

491
00:23:52,206 --> 00:23:55,336
especially the virtual pipeline
of US shale gas

492
00:23:55,336 --> 00:23:59,336
that they're so proud of, suggests
they're not planning to stop making

493
00:23:59,336 --> 00:24:02,137
virgin plastic any time soon.

494
00:24:03,307 --> 00:24:07,456
One thing that's definitely going to
stay with me today - what I saw.

495
00:24:07,456 --> 00:24:11,497
Billions and billions
and billions of tiny pellets

496
00:24:11,497 --> 00:24:16,416
of plastic leaving this factory
today, tomorrow, every single day.

497
00:24:18,416 --> 00:24:21,307
Where are they going to end up?
Seriously.

498
00:24:23,387 --> 00:24:28,177
What is certain is that the more
plastic this industry produces,

499
00:24:28,177 --> 00:24:31,777
the more plastic will end up
in our lives,

500
00:24:31,777 --> 00:24:35,777
whether we want it or not.

501
00:24:38,897 --> 00:24:41,586
ANITA: Campaigning sisters Ella and
Caitlin

502
00:24:41,586 --> 00:24:44,497
have been busy spreading the word
about that petition

503
00:24:44,497 --> 00:24:47,416
against plastic fast food toys.

504
00:24:47,416 --> 00:24:51,307
If anyone has any unwanted
McDonald's and Burger King toys,

505
00:24:51,307 --> 00:24:53,456
if they could give them to us

506
00:24:53,456 --> 00:24:55,947
because we're going to try and
collect them to give back

507
00:24:55,947 --> 00:24:58,177
to McDonald's and Burger King.

508
00:24:58,177 --> 00:25:00,416
If it's plastic, we really don't
want them.

509
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:04,097
The girls' letters to Burger King
and McDonald's didn't get

510
00:25:04,097 --> 00:25:07,336
any response, but after sending
follow-up e-mails,

511
00:25:07,336 --> 00:25:09,617
they tell me they've got some news.

512
00:25:11,897 --> 00:25:15,097
Hello! Hello. Hello, girls.
What's been happening?

513
00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:18,996
First of all we've got an e-mail
from Burger King and McDonald's.

514
00:25:18,996 --> 00:25:21,443
OK, so what did Burger King say?

515
00:25:21,467 --> 00:25:23,386
"Dear Ella and Caitlin,

516
00:25:23,386 --> 00:25:26,717
"plastic pollution
is a big issue.

517
00:25:26,717 --> 00:25:31,357
"And there's something we as a brand
need to review.

518
00:25:31,357 --> 00:25:35,357
"Whilst we can't advise of
any changes at the moment,

519
00:25:35,357 --> 00:25:39,787
"we have forwarded your comments
to our management team

520
00:25:39,787 --> 00:25:41,947
"so we can review the matter."

521
00:25:41,947 --> 00:25:44,067
Well, at least they've engaged with
you.

522
00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:46,147
They've obviously read your letter.

523
00:25:46,147 --> 00:25:48,027
What about the e-mail
from McDonald's?

524
00:25:48,027 --> 00:25:51,506
So McDonald's said "Reference
number is blah blah blah.

525
00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:53,917
"Just want to let you know our team
are currently reviewing

526
00:25:53,917 --> 00:25:55,947
"your feedback and we will be back
in touch as soon as possible.

527
00:25:55,947 --> 00:25:58,467
"Kind regards, McDonald's
customer service team."

528
00:25:58,467 --> 00:26:01,176
I think they've just sent you
an automated response.

529
00:26:01,176 --> 00:26:02,947
That's not good enough.

530
00:26:02,947 --> 00:26:05,386
It's not just something like
"Oh, I got too many tomatoes

531
00:26:05,386 --> 00:26:08,817
"in my burger." It's something
about the lives of sea animals.

532
00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:12,756
The girls' friends at Brownies have
responded to their call-out.

533
00:26:15,717 --> 00:26:17,426
What?!

534
00:26:17,426 --> 00:26:20,506
Hopefully we'll go to McDonald's
and we'll just give them all back.

535
00:26:20,506 --> 00:26:22,867
Give us burgers, not plastic.

536
00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:26,227
I like that. That's a good...
That's a good slogan.

537
00:26:26,227 --> 00:26:27,997
Give us burgers, not plastic.

538
00:26:27,997 --> 00:26:29,587
Girls, I'm so pleased.

539
00:26:29,587 --> 00:26:31,426
I feel like there's an army now.

540
00:26:31,426 --> 00:26:32,817
Yeah. Yes.

541
00:26:32,817 --> 00:26:34,636
Good work.

542
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:35,917
Bve- Bye-bye.

543
00:26:35,917 --> 00:26:37,997
I'm totally inspired.

544
00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:41,587
I don't think McDonald's know what
they're taking on with these two.

545
00:26:41,587 --> 00:26:44,997
They've underestimated
the power of young girls.

546
00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:51,556
Plastic toys given away
as a marketing tool by companies

547
00:26:51,556 --> 00:26:55,867
might not feel right, but all
of us want to give presents

548
00:26:55,867 --> 00:26:57,867
to our family and friends.

549
00:27:01,947 --> 00:27:03,867
How are you? Lovely to see you.

550
00:27:03,867 --> 00:27:06,197
How are you doing?

551
00:27:06,197 --> 00:27:08,067
On the street in Bristol,

552
00:27:08,067 --> 00:27:10,917
Kay is well into her preparations
for Christmas.

553
00:27:10,917 --> 00:27:12,636
Who do you buy presents for?

554
00:27:12,636 --> 00:27:15,867
I got four stepchildren,
16 step grandchildren,

555
00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:18,747
seven great grandchildren,
but then I also buy

556
00:27:18,747 --> 00:27:21,837
for the children in the street
anyway.

557
00:27:21,837 --> 00:27:23,787
With so many gifts to wrap,

558
00:27:23,787 --> 00:27:26,107
Kay often uses
a convenient short cut.

559
00:27:28,227 --> 00:27:30,667
What is that made of?
Is this what you use?

560
00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:33,176
It's paper. It's for birthday
presents and Christmas gits.

561
00:27:33,176 --> 00:27:34,787
Is it foil or is it...?

562
00:27:34,787 --> 00:27:36,667
I have no idea.

563
00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:38,667
What, do you wanna take one
with you?

564
00:27:38,667 --> 00:27:41,386
Shall we take that and figure
out what it is?

565
00:27:41,386 --> 00:27:43,306
All right, cool.

566
00:27:43,306 --> 00:27:46,277
I like that you're setting me
challenges as well.

567
00:27:46,277 --> 00:27:48,587
Kay's right to be concerned
about how we wrap our gifts.

568
00:27:48,587 --> 00:27:52,477
At Christmas alone, we use
enough wrapping paper to wrap

569
00:27:52,477 --> 00:27:57,306
around the world nine times, held
together with 40 million rolls

570
00:27:57,306 --> 00:27:59,787
of polypropylene sticky tape.

571
00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:05,426
Some on the street are trying out
different takes on gift wrap.

572
00:28:05,426 --> 00:28:07,917
I knew that I had a paper bag
I'd bought from shops and I thought

573
00:28:07,917 --> 00:28:11,147
it would be a good idea
to recycle them.

574
00:28:11,147 --> 00:28:14,506
Jess's mum Wendy has got even
more creative.

575
00:28:14,506 --> 00:28:17,306
I'm making some little bags
to put my Christmas gifts in,

576
00:28:17,306 --> 00:28:22,277
instead of trying to find
plastic-free wrapping paper.

577
00:28:24,147 --> 00:28:27,837
Lots of wrapping paper includes
plastic and can't be recycled.

578
00:28:29,147 --> 00:28:31,027
And when I do my research for Kay...

579
00:28:31,027 --> 00:28:32,747
Good to see you again!

580
00:28:34,556 --> 00:28:37,426
...I discover there's a handy plastic
check

581
00:28:37,426 --> 00:28:39,947
and it'll work for
Kay's gift bags, too.

582
00:28:41,426 --> 00:28:43,027
It's called the crinkle test.

583
00:28:43,027 --> 00:28:45,787
Apparently if you just crinkle
something, and if it pings back

584
00:28:45,787 --> 00:28:48,306
into shape,
then it's got plastic in it.

585
00:28:48,306 --> 00:28:50,117
If it pings... Squeeze it...

586
00:28:50,117 --> 00:28:51,917
Yeah, yeah. And then...

587
00:28:53,917 --> 00:28:56,067
Are you surprised that that's got
plastic in it?

588
00:28:56,067 --> 00:28:57,426
No. No, I'm not.

589
00:28:57,426 --> 00:29:00,027
Actually, I'd be more surprised
if you said it hadn't got

590
00:29:00,027 --> 00:29:02,477
any plastic in it.

591
00:29:02,477 --> 00:29:06,607
This is properly single use,
because no-one's going to use...

592
00:29:06,607 --> 00:29:11,217
They do, actually. If somebody gets
that in a present, undoes the bow...

593
00:29:11,217 --> 00:29:13,767
But, Kay, not everyone is
as organised as you.

594
00:29:13,767 --> 00:29:16,607
I just think people... You'd have
to be very organised...

595
00:29:16,607 --> 00:29:18,887
We've got to differ on that one,
I'm afraid.

596
00:29:18,887 --> 00:29:21,446
I'm sorry, but I don't agree
with you.

597
00:29:21,446 --> 00:29:24,857
The end of the street experiment
is in just a few weeks' time,

598
00:29:24,857 --> 00:29:27,807
so I'll be sure to check
in with Kay again.

599
00:29:33,576 --> 00:29:35,967
HUGH: Producers of plastic
like lneos are backing

600
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:41,087
recycling as the solution to the
plastic pollution crisis.

601
00:29:41,087 --> 00:29:44,967
But I've seen how our current
recycling system is creating

602
00:29:44,967 --> 00:29:47,497
problems as well as solving them.

603
00:29:48,807 --> 00:29:53,497
A key way to reform it is to make
the producers of plastic packaging

604
00:29:53,497 --> 00:29:57,047
pay for its collection,
sorting and disposal.

605
00:29:57,047 --> 00:30:01,297
Currently, they only contribute
10% to those costs.

606
00:30:01,297 --> 00:30:05,047
The Minister for the Environment,
Michael Gove, IS developing

607
00:30:05,047 --> 00:30:08,857
a new Government strategy
to deal with our waste better,

608
00:30:08,857 --> 00:30:11,446
and last time we met, I put to him
this principle

609
00:30:11,446 --> 00:30:13,326
that the polluter should pay.

610
00:30:13,326 --> 00:30:16,607
That responsibility
belongs entirely to producers

611
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:19,047
and retailers,
and they should pay 100%.

612
00:30:19,047 --> 00:30:21,887
I absolutely accept the case,
and I think they should...

613
00:30:21,887 --> 00:30:23,526
You accept the case for 100%?

614
00:30:23,526 --> 00:30:26,047
I accept the case
that they should pay more.

615
00:30:26,047 --> 00:30:28,406
Three weeks later, I'm invited
to the press launch

616
00:30:28,406 --> 00:30:30,687
for his waste and resources strategy

617
00:30:30,687 --> 00:30:32,727
at a London recycling facility.

618
00:30:32,727 --> 00:30:36,167
So, has he taken all this on board?

619
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:41,247
Is he ready to make
plastic polluters pay 100%?

620
00:30:41,247 --> 00:30:44,526
Hello. Hi. Nice to see you.
How are you? Not too bad.

621
00:30:44,526 --> 00:30:47,406
You have news for all of us
who are interested in waste policy

622
00:30:47,406 --> 00:30:49,367
and the future of plastics.

623
00:30:49,367 --> 00:30:52,526
What are the headlines? Tomorrow,
we'll be publishing a document

624
00:30:52,526 --> 00:30:56,117
which outlines how we can change
the way in which we deal with waste.

625
00:30:56,117 --> 00:30:58,446
One of the first things,
which I know is something

626
00:30:58,446 --> 00:31:01,326
that you've been calling for, Hugh,
is that we're going to say

627
00:31:01,326 --> 00:31:03,887
to all producers that they must
pay the full cost of dealing

628
00:31:03,887 --> 00:31:05,807
with material that they generate.

629
00:31:05,807 --> 00:31:08,297
Producers will be responsible
for 100%?

630
00:31:08,297 --> 00:31:11,007
100% of the cost... 100% of the cost
of recovery and recycling? Yes.

631
00:31:11,007 --> 00:31:13,367
Obviously you're going to get
pushed back on that.

632
00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,607
You're going to stand firm
and stick to 100%?

633
00:31:15,607 --> 00:31:17,247
Oh, yes, absolutely, yes.

634
00:31:17,247 --> 00:31:19,367
I think it's critical
that we do so.

635
00:31:19,367 --> 00:31:23,406
So the Minister seems to be on track
with the idea that the polluters

636
00:31:23,406 --> 00:31:26,857
should pay in full, although
the strategy still has a way to go

637
00:31:26,857 --> 00:31:28,607
to become policy.

638
00:31:28,607 --> 00:31:33,367
And even if we do get a properly
funded overhaul of our recycling,

639
00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:37,607
I'm starting to wonder -
will this be enough?

640
00:31:40,576 --> 00:31:44,757
I've been haunted by this sense
of a plastics industry

641
00:31:44,757 --> 00:31:47,217
that's hell-bent on growth.

642
00:31:47,217 --> 00:31:51,117
You know, that's all about more,
not less.

643
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:55,217
I'm meeting the lead plastics
campaigner for Friends of the Earth,

644
00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:56,887
Julian Kirby...

645
00:31:56,887 --> 00:31:58,367
Hi, Julian.

646
00:31:58,367 --> 00:32:01,247
...who's been modelling possible
futures for global plastic.

647
00:32:01,247 --> 00:32:04,247
I've got to a certain point
in my plastics journey

648
00:32:04,247 --> 00:32:07,396
where, I have to say,
things are feeling pretty intense,

649
00:32:07,396 --> 00:32:09,937
especially since I went
to Grangemouth and visited

650
00:32:09,937 --> 00:32:11,857
the lneos plant.

651
00:32:11,857 --> 00:32:14,807
What I'm hearing is, sure,
they're going to open new plants

652
00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:18,446
and build more ethylene crackers,
but that's fine,

653
00:32:18,446 --> 00:32:21,967
because they're going to use
more recycled plastic

654
00:32:21,967 --> 00:32:25,497
and we're going to be better
at recycling, and the Government's

655
00:32:25,497 --> 00:32:28,607
going to make sure that councils
are better at recycling,

656
00:32:28,607 --> 00:32:31,247
and we're going to recycle
our way out of this problem

657
00:32:31,247 --> 00:32:33,607
and it's all going to be fine.
Is it going to be fine?

658
00:32:33,607 --> 00:32:36,247
No, it's not.
Not if we take that approach,

659
00:32:36,247 --> 00:32:39,007
which is just carry on making more
and more and more and hope

660
00:32:39,007 --> 00:32:42,047
that recycling will get us
out of the fix, because recycling

661
00:32:42,047 --> 00:32:43,887
can't do that. Take this plate.

662
00:32:43,887 --> 00:32:46,167
Imagine this is the circular
economy.

663
00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:48,326
So we talk about the circular
economy is a good thing

664
00:32:48,326 --> 00:32:51,087
and we need to recycle things as
much as possible.

665
00:32:51,087 --> 00:32:53,646
Once we've made a plastic bottle,
we'll recycle it

666
00:32:53,646 --> 00:32:55,446
round and round as a plastic
bottle.

667
00:32:55,446 --> 00:32:58,446
But what people never talk about
in the debate is the size

668
00:32:58,446 --> 00:32:59,807
<i>\</i> of the circle. I

669
00:32:59,807 --> 00:33:02,967
So it's all very well putting in
plastic and then making it

670
00:33:02,967 --> 00:33:04,326
spin around.

671
00:33:04,326 --> 00:33:06,937
But if you're putting in more
and more plastic,

672
00:33:06,937 --> 00:33:09,007
then your circle is getting
bigger and bigger,

673
00:33:09,007 --> 00:33:11,607
and more plastic means
more climate-changing pollution

674
00:33:11,607 --> 00:33:14,037
from the fossil fuels that are
needed to make that plastic.

675
00:33:14,037 --> 00:33:17,687
So if you're getting 20%
better at recycling,

676
00:33:17,687 --> 00:33:22,367
but the circle is getting 50%
bigger every few years...

677
00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:27,247
Yeah. ..your problems of plastic
pollution are going up, not down.

678
00:33:27,247 --> 00:33:29,167
Yeah, absolutely.

679
00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:31,217
Mass expansion of plastic production
and use

680
00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:33,687
is driving the plastic pollution
crisis,

681
00:33:33,687 --> 00:33:37,007
but it's also a major contributor to
the climate crisis.

682
00:33:37,007 --> 00:33:40,217
The focus has to be on reducing
how much plastic we're making

683
00:33:40,217 --> 00:33:42,287
and using in the first place.

684
00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:44,757
That is really missing
from the conversation,

685
00:33:44,757 --> 00:33:48,857
and yet it's an essential part
of dealing with the plastic crisis.

686
00:33:48,857 --> 00:33:52,477
I can see why getting behind
recycling serves the makers

687
00:33:52,477 --> 00:33:56,607
of plastic so well - it's completely
compatible with giving us

688
00:33:56,607 --> 00:33:58,446
more and more plastic.

689
00:33:58,446 --> 00:34:02,857
And I wonder whether the businesses
that are using so much of it

690
00:34:02,857 --> 00:34:05,576
might be playing the same game.

691
00:34:10,576 --> 00:34:14,287
Giveaway toy campaigners Caitlin
and Ella are clear about the plastic

692
00:34:14,287 --> 00:34:16,396
they don't need.

693
00:34:16,396 --> 00:34:18,167
Hello, action team!

694
00:34:18,167 --> 00:34:20,477
How are you?

695
00:34:20,477 --> 00:34:24,167
Burger King have sent us
an update on their plans, writing,

696
00:34:24,167 --> 00:34:26,887
"We are trialling the removal
of toys, and working

697
00:34:26,887 --> 00:34:28,967
"on the development of alternatives,

698
00:34:28,967 --> 00:34:31,687
"our goal being to have a more
sustainable toy solution

699
00:34:31,687 --> 00:34:33,607
"in place by 2020.

700
00:34:33,607 --> 00:34:37,937
"In the meantime, we'd like
to applaud Ella and Caitlin

701
00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:39,446
"for their initiative."

702
00:34:39,446 --> 00:34:41,887
They're all McDonald's ones...

703
00:34:41,887 --> 00:34:45,210
But the girls haven't received
anything from McDonald's

704
00:34:45,211 --> 00:34:48,247
beyond their automated response,
and have come to London to deliver

705
00:34:48,247 --> 00:34:51,217
their petition to the
head office around the corner.

706
00:34:51,217 --> 00:34:55,037
Look at all those! 166,101.

707
00:34:58,287 --> 00:35:01,857
I've brought along a little
addition...

708
00:35:01,857 --> 00:35:05,167
Choo-choo! Off we go.

709
00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:07,326
...to make sure they get noticed.

710
00:35:10,927 --> 00:35:14,287
We've gathered a small army
of McDonald's toys...

711
00:35:16,326 --> 00:35:18,646
...to help show the scale
of the problem

712
00:35:18,646 --> 00:35:20,607
the girls are highlighting.

713
00:35:22,799 --> 00:35:24,518
Come and check it out.

714
00:35:24,518 --> 00:35:26,719
That is a lot! Unbelievable.

715
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,749
"This many plastic Happy Meal toys

716
00:35:28,749 --> 00:35:31,959
"are given away in the UK
every five minutes."

717
00:35:31,959 --> 00:35:33,518
Five minutes!

718
00:35:33,518 --> 00:35:36,279
That's just ridiculous. When you
go in to give your petition,

719
00:35:36,279 --> 00:35:39,879
I thought maybe we could drop
this off as well. Yes.

720
00:35:39,879 --> 00:35:43,279
But before marching on McDonald's,
we attract a bit of a crowd.

721
00:35:43,279 --> 00:35:45,959
So these two, Ella and Caitlin,

722
00:35:45,959 --> 00:35:48,799
have got a petition here
that they've done

723
00:35:48,799 --> 00:35:51,568
so they're going to take
this to McDonald's.

724
00:35:51,568 --> 00:35:54,388
What do you think? Is that a good
thing? Yeah.

725
00:35:54,388 --> 00:35:57,239
So you've got all the support.
Let's do it. Good.

726
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,638
Let's do it. Lead the way, girls.

727
00:35:58,638 --> 00:36:00,568
MUSIC: Alright by Supergrass

728
00:36:00,568 --> 00:36:03,279
# We are young, we run green... #

729
00:36:03,279 --> 00:36:06,599
Giant plastic worm
coming through.

730
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,029
# ..See our friends, see the sights

731
00:36:09,029 --> 00:36:10,919
# Feel alright. #

732
00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:13,959
At least McDonald's can't deal
with this approach by using

733
00:36:13,959 --> 00:36:16,109
an automated response.

734
00:36:16,109 --> 00:36:19,469
We've done a petition
against McDonald's plastic toys.

735
00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:22,669
We want to speak
to the sustainability department

736
00:36:22,669 --> 00:36:25,359
because we've got quite
a few signatures.

737
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:27,879
Yes, can you come downstairs,
please?

738
00:36:27,879 --> 00:36:29,749
Can we ask who's coming downstairs?

739
00:36:29,749 --> 00:36:31,879
Someone that can help you.

740
00:36:31,879 --> 00:36:34,279
OK, thank you very much.

741
00:36:36,279 --> 00:36:39,919
But the person who comes
is not who we were hoping for.

742
00:36:39,919 --> 00:36:42,469
We're just here to see if we can
speak to somebody.

743
00:36:42,469 --> 00:36:44,599
No, you can't, I'm afraid.
We can't speak to anybody?

744
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,209
I'll talk to you outside.

745
00:36:46,209 --> 00:36:48,599
But what about the girls
who want to speak to somebody?

746
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:51,669
And the girls as well. So we're not
allowed to stay in reception? No.

747
00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:54,388
That's fine. Can I ask who you are?
Yeah, I'm the security.

748
00:36:54,388 --> 00:36:57,999
OK. Security is escorting us off
the property.

749
00:36:57,999 --> 00:36:59,999
Can we ask you to go down to
the bottom?

750
00:36:59,999 --> 00:37:02,438
Can we just tell you what
the girls are...

751
00:37:02,438 --> 00:37:04,079
I can tell you down the bottom. OK.

752
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:05,999
You've not even asked us what
we're here to do.

753
00:37:05,999 --> 00:37:08,159
I'll ask you down the bottom. OK.

754
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,079
Do you want to take this with you?
You don't want this on the property?

755
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:12,669
No. No.

756
00:37:12,669 --> 00:37:15,638
I think the girls might want...
They've brought a petition.

757
00:37:18,799 --> 00:37:21,599
We retreat back to the
public pavement.

758
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,159
Are you all right? It's fine, OK?

759
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,719


760
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,669
He said he was going to talk
to us about what we wanted,

761
00:37:28,669 --> 00:37:30,749
and now he's just disappeared.

762
00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:34,669
He basically wanted to get us
off his property. It's not OK.

763
00:37:36,209 --> 00:37:40,079
I feel like companies should be
ready to hear people's complaints.

764
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,408
Like, they don't really care.

765
00:37:42,408 --> 00:37:45,328
They're really hurting the
environment. All they care about

766
00:37:45,328 --> 00:37:47,979
is that people are still buying
their things

767
00:37:47,979 --> 00:37:49,619
and they still get money.

768
00:37:49,619 --> 00:37:51,939
They didn't come out of their
office to talk to you,

769
00:37:51,939 --> 00:37:54,099
but I'm pretty sure McDonald's
will be watching.

770
00:37:54,099 --> 00:37:56,408
So how about you tell them
what you want to say?

771
00:37:56,408 --> 00:37:58,689
I want to say that this is just
ridiculous.

772
00:37:58,689 --> 00:38:01,538
These toys are not needed.

773
00:38:01,538 --> 00:38:03,458
No-one needs these toys.

774
00:38:03,458 --> 00:38:06,538
We don't want them, and you can't
say that no-one else agrees

775
00:38:06,538 --> 00:38:11,619
with us, because there's...
BOTH: ..166,101 signatures.

776
00:38:11,619 --> 00:38:14,899
I don't doubt there are more people
than that who agree with us.

777
00:38:14,899 --> 00:38:17,969
You should be changing this
and you shouldn't be doing this,

778
00:38:17,969 --> 00:38:20,049
McDonald's, it's crazy.

779
00:38:20,049 --> 00:38:21,939
The girls are eventually

780
00:38:21,939 --> 00:38:24,299
allowed back in to drop off
their petition

781
00:38:24,299 --> 00:38:26,379
with the receptionist.

782
00:38:26,379 --> 00:38:30,019
McDonald's may not have come to talk
to us today,

783
00:38:30,019 --> 00:38:33,019
but until they stop
giving out plastic toys,

784
00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:36,179
I think they may be hearing
a lot more from the likes

785
00:38:36,179 --> 00:38:38,049
of Ella and Caitlin.

786
00:38:47,259 --> 00:38:50,658
The experiment to see how much
the streets in Bristol

787
00:38:50,658 --> 00:38:54,099
can reduce its single-use plastic
is at its end.

788
00:38:59,049 --> 00:39:03,869
Our team of counters are revisiting
the 22 houses taking part...

789
00:39:03,869 --> 00:39:06,512
We've got one, two, three, four...

790
00:39:06,536 --> 00:39:09,687
...adding up every piece so we can
compare the total

791
00:39:09,687 --> 00:39:12,536
with the original counts
four months ago.

792
00:39:14,257 --> 00:39:16,656
How are you? Come on in.

793
00:39:18,017 --> 00:39:22,217
If this normal street has been able
to make a significant reduction,

794
00:39:22,217 --> 00:39:26,406
there IS hope we can find a way
out of the plastics crisis.

795
00:39:28,536 --> 00:39:31,177
Hey! Welcome back!

796
00:39:31,177 --> 00:39:33,047
What a massive day.

797
00:39:33,047 --> 00:39:36,456
Before everyone gets together
for the collective result...

798
00:39:36,456 --> 00:39:39,177
Let's do it. I'll go this way,
you go that way... Brilliant.

799
00:39:39,177 --> 00:39:41,937
...and we'll meet up at the end and
see what we find. Can't wait.

800
00:39:41,937 --> 00:39:44,867
...Hugh and I are keen to hear how
people on the street

801
00:39:44,867 --> 00:39:46,897
are feeling about the challenge.

802
00:39:46,897 --> 00:39:49,297
Good morning. Hi, Wendy. Hello.

803
00:39:49,297 --> 00:39:50,687
I hesitate to say

804
00:39:50,687 --> 00:39:53,326
you were one of the worst
on the street for plastic,

805
00:39:53,326 --> 00:39:56,377
but you were one of the worst on
the street for plastic!

806
00:39:56,377 --> 00:39:58,857
Mad! All that stuff.

807
00:39:58,857 --> 00:40:02,297
Is that about it now, for sort
of cleaning products?

808
00:40:02,297 --> 00:40:03,576
That looks refillable too.

809
00:40:03,576 --> 00:40:05,377
That's what Anna made me,
across the road.

810
00:40:05,377 --> 00:40:07,536
It's not necessarily
that you've got rid of a load,

811
00:40:07,536 --> 00:40:09,687
it's that what you've got left
is refillable. Yeah.

812
00:40:09,687 --> 00:40:12,177
The wet wipes are gone.
Have they? Yeah.

813
00:40:12,177 --> 00:40:14,937
What have you done? It's quite
easy - we just don't buy any more.

814
00:40:14,937 --> 00:40:18,607
Just use a cloth. Massive change is
the water bottles. They are gone.

815
00:40:18,607 --> 00:40:21,687
And what have you replaced that
with? The water filter.

816
00:40:21,687 --> 00:40:23,576
There's been some drastic changes.

817
00:40:23,576 --> 00:40:25,687
What was the big thing for you?

818
00:40:25,687 --> 00:40:27,217
Ii

819
00:40:27,217 --> 00:40:29,297
Do you miss them? Not at all.

820
00:40:29,297 --> 00:40:32,817
Once I realised how much
of a problem they were causing,

821
00:40:32,817 --> 00:40:34,737
it was a no-brainer.

822
00:40:34,737 --> 00:40:38,217
One resident's agoraphobia means
she can't turn out

823
00:40:38,217 --> 00:40:40,047
for the result of the count.

824
00:40:40,047 --> 00:40:42,377
Throughout the experiment,
the wonderful Kay

825
00:40:42,377 --> 00:40:44,257
has been my reality check.

826
00:40:45,687 --> 00:40:47,857
Now, what I've done is, that's the
wrapping bag -

827
00:40:47,857 --> 00:40:50,656
all wrapping what come off
of presents.

828
00:40:50,656 --> 00:40:53,817
This is the bag that you said
people will re-use.

829
00:40:53,817 --> 00:40:55,487
Yeah, but they didn't, did they?

830
00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:57,897
So what do you think? Are you going
to use those next year?

831
00:40:57,897 --> 00:41:00,047
I probably won't, actually.

832
00:41:00,047 --> 00:41:03,217
That could be one of the ones
I'm not going to do next year.

833
00:41:03,217 --> 00:41:05,177
You're not going to use
these next year! No.

834
00:41:05,177 --> 00:41:07,737
The bottom line is, I'm thinking
that I can make a bit

835
00:41:07,737 --> 00:41:09,177
of a difference and,

836
00:41:09,177 --> 00:41:12,576
if I could do it, so can a lot of
other people, really.

837
00:41:15,297 --> 00:41:19,377
I love Kay's growing positivity
AND the other successes I've seen

838
00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:24,297
on the street, but I'm aware
they're not the full picture.

839
00:41:24,297 --> 00:41:27,047
Not everybody's been able
to do that much.

840
00:41:27,047 --> 00:41:30,456
Some people not engaged
with this at all, and it's not

841
00:41:30,456 --> 00:41:32,817
actually that easy for people
to be as plastic free

842
00:41:32,817 --> 00:41:36,857
as they want to be because of
the way things are sold.

843
00:41:36,857 --> 00:41:39,607
So, all of that taken into account,

844
00:41:39,607 --> 00:41:42,497
what do I think about what's
going to happen?

845
00:41:42,497 --> 00:41:44,326
No idea.

846
00:41:44,326 --> 00:41:48,857
I just hope the plastic is less than
it was when we first started.

847
00:41:48,857 --> 00:41:50,937
As the residents gather,

848
00:41:50,937 --> 00:41:55,297
our team calculates the grand total,
ready for the big reveal.

849
00:42:04,857 --> 00:42:07,097
Hello, everyone! Hey! Hi!

850
00:42:07,097 --> 00:42:10,656
OK, so today is the big day
where we're going to find out

851
00:42:10,656 --> 00:42:13,127
what we've all been up to.

852
00:42:13,127 --> 00:42:16,656
Right. A lot of us are gathered here
who've been involved in the project

853
00:42:16,656 --> 00:42:19,276
but there is a really special,
important person that

854
00:42:19,276 --> 00:42:22,307
I've spent a lot of time with.
Kay, are you with us?

855
00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:23,918
'I'm here! Hi! I

856
00:42:23,918 --> 00:42:25,918
Hello, Kay!
CHEERING

857
00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:28,198
It's great to see you all there.

858
00:42:28,198 --> 00:42:30,108
So shall we do the results?

859
00:42:30,108 --> 00:42:32,307
ALL: Yes!

860
00:42:32,307 --> 00:42:38,128
Four months ago, the total plastic
that came from this street

861
00:42:38,128 --> 00:42:45,358
was 15,774
single-use bits of plastic.

862
00:42:45,358 --> 00:42:46,798
So...

863
00:42:48,307 --> 00:42:52,228
I just want to be clear
that the same houses

864
00:42:52,228 --> 00:42:56,478
that were measured on day one
have been measured now.

865
00:42:56,478 --> 00:43:00,307
It's a proper comparison
of like figures.

866
00:43:00,307 --> 00:43:01,878
Here it comes.

867
00:43:03,838 --> 00:43:05,078
The figure today...

868
00:43:06,878 --> 00:43:08,557
...is...

869
00:43:12,278 --> 00:43:13,358
Yes!

870
00:43:13,358 --> 00:43:17,278
8,610 bits of plastic!
That is amazing.

871
00:43:17,278 --> 00:43:19,868
CHEERING

872
00:43:19,868 --> 00:43:22,358
So that is a reduction of...

873
00:43:22,358 --> 00:43:24,918
...45%! Wow!

874
00:43:24,918 --> 00:43:27,718
Yeah, come on! This is you!

875
00:43:29,387 --> 00:43:34,517
You have come very, very close
to halving the amount of plastic

876
00:43:34,517 --> 00:43:38,108
you're using in the street.
Phenomenal.

877
00:43:38,108 --> 00:43:43,028
If every street in the country
followed your example, by how many

878
00:43:43,028 --> 00:43:47,387
pieces of plastic would we reduce
the plastic mountain that's now

879
00:43:47,387 --> 00:43:49,108
sitting on top of us all?

880
00:43:49,108 --> 00:43:51,228
What would it be?

881
00:43:51,228 --> 00:43:55,868
8.8 billion pieces of plastic
less in our lives.

882
00:43:55,868 --> 00:44:00,078
That's 8.8 billion pieces of plastic
that won't end up in the sea.

883
00:44:00,078 --> 00:44:03,108
That won't get burned
somewhere in Asia

884
00:44:03,108 --> 00:44:05,798
because we don't
know how to deal with it.

885
00:44:05,798 --> 00:44:09,668
It would be a phenomenal
achievement for the nation

886
00:44:09,668 --> 00:44:12,637
to do what you have done.

887
00:44:12,637 --> 00:44:16,028
We've learned so much.
Yeah, it's been amazing.

888
00:44:16,028 --> 00:44:17,838
One of the really great things

889
00:44:17,838 --> 00:44:20,278
has been our community
coming together.

890
00:44:20,278 --> 00:44:23,198
There is a small revolution
going on, and, yes...

891
00:44:23,198 --> 00:44:24,637
Now let's make it a big one.

892
00:44:24,637 --> 00:44:27,387
We need to make it a big one, yeah.
Amazing. Thank you.

893
00:44:30,028 --> 00:44:32,278
WHOOPING

894
00:44:38,387 --> 00:44:42,998
This ordinary British street
has proved that making

895
00:44:42,998 --> 00:44:46,918
a significant reduction to the
plastic in our lives IS possible,

896
00:44:46,918 --> 00:44:49,387
but it hasn't all been easy.

897
00:44:49,387 --> 00:44:51,998
What are the hardest things
to buy without plastic?

898
00:44:51,998 --> 00:44:53,437


899
00:44:53,437 --> 00:44:55,557
Food that you're going to keep

900
00:44:55,557 --> 00:44:58,118
for a while like the bars,
the pasta.

901
00:44:58,118 --> 00:45:01,078
It's very frustrating to go
to Sainsbury's thinking, right,

902
00:45:01,078 --> 00:45:02,998
I'm going to avoid plastic

903
00:45:02,998 --> 00:45:05,948
and then... You can't.
..l need X, Y and Z,

904
00:45:05,948 --> 00:45:08,748
and it's all encased in plastic.

905
00:45:11,108 --> 00:45:14,948
Of course, the supermarkets aren't
silent on the subject of plastics.

906
00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:17,798
They've all got a plan,
and I'm absolutely convinced

907
00:45:17,798 --> 00:45:22,198
that this is where we need to see
change - from our supermarkets.

908
00:45:22,198 --> 00:45:25,358
This is where we have to pile
on the pressure.

909
00:45:25,358 --> 00:45:28,387
One of the baselines for
the supermarkets' plans

910
00:45:28,387 --> 00:45:33,198
is a pledge that they've all signed
called the Plastics Pact.

911
00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:38,158
And here's the number one
commitment - that by 2025,

912
00:45:38,158 --> 00:45:42,228
100% of our plastic packaging
to be reusable,

913
00:45:42,228 --> 00:45:44,868
recyclable or compostable.

914
00:45:44,868 --> 00:45:46,948
They've got three choices.

915
00:45:46,948 --> 00:45:50,637
So, which of these are they actually
going to choose?

916
00:45:50,637 --> 00:45:54,557
The different supermarkets'
plastics plans have been analysed

917
00:45:54,557 --> 00:45:58,637
by the Environmental Investigation
Agency and Greenpeace.

918
00:46:01,948 --> 00:46:04,078
I've come to discuss their findings

919
00:46:04,078 --> 00:46:08,818
with Greenpeace's ocean plastics
campaigner Elena Polisano.

920
00:46:08,818 --> 00:46:11,048
Hi, Elena. Hi. How are you?

921
00:46:11,048 --> 00:46:14,688
The survey found that UK
supermarkets produce

922
00:46:14,688 --> 00:46:17,818
over 800,000 tonnes
of single-use plastic a year -

923
00:46:17,818 --> 00:46:20,298
a third of all our
plastic packaging -

924
00:46:20,298 --> 00:46:23,128
so their future plans
really matter.

925
00:46:23,128 --> 00:46:25,498
This is a familiar sight
to us all, isn't it?

926
00:46:25,498 --> 00:46:28,768
So this is the sort of plastic
we would call a problem plastic.

927
00:46:28,768 --> 00:46:30,298
It can't be recycled.

928
00:46:30,298 --> 00:46:33,018
Supermarkets need to make sure
they're getting rid of this stuff.

929
00:46:33,018 --> 00:46:34,768
The three peppers...

930
00:46:34,768 --> 00:46:37,688
This crinkly stuff can't be
recycled. Can't be recycled.

931
00:46:37,688 --> 00:46:42,457
But they are planning to phase this
stuff out - in favour of what?

932
00:46:42,457 --> 00:46:44,527
Recyclable plastic, mainly.

933
00:46:44,527 --> 00:46:47,248
So we're still talking
single-use plastic packaging.

934
00:46:47,248 --> 00:46:50,818
So the fact that it's single use but
recyclable, that's still a problem.

935
00:46:50,818 --> 00:46:52,218
Absolutely!

936
00:46:52,218 --> 00:46:53,608
No waste system in the world

937
00:46:53,608 --> 00:46:56,527
could cope with the amount of
plastic that we're producing.

938
00:46:56,527 --> 00:46:58,498
The evidence I think is there
for us all to see,

939
00:46:58,498 --> 00:47:00,128
whether it's a walk along the beach

940
00:47:00,128 --> 00:47:02,138
or whether it's images
of the plastic

941
00:47:02,138 --> 00:47:04,248
that we've exported around
the world.

942
00:47:04,248 --> 00:47:06,738
Another solution
open to the supermarkets

943
00:47:06,738 --> 00:47:10,818
under their pledge is to use
compostable plastics.

944
00:47:10,818 --> 00:47:14,248
The worry with this stuff is that it
needs very specific conditions

945
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:16,768
in order to be compostable,

946
00:47:16,768 --> 00:47:20,688
and if it gets into the recycling
stream it contaminates it.

947
00:47:20,688 --> 00:47:23,858
We need to move away from
a throwaway culture where we imagine

948
00:47:23,858 --> 00:47:26,888
that our packaging just
magically disappears.

949
00:47:26,888 --> 00:47:30,138
We need to move away from
single use, full stop.

950
00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:32,818
Why do you think supermarkets
are going down this route

951
00:47:32,818 --> 00:47:36,298
of sticking with plastics rather
than properly addressing reduction?

952
00:47:36,298 --> 00:47:39,018
Because it's as close as you can get
to business as usual.

953
00:47:39,018 --> 00:47:41,768
It's very profitable. It means
that, you know, supermarkets

954
00:47:41,768 --> 00:47:44,378
don't need to make these big,
radical changes.

955
00:47:44,378 --> 00:47:47,858
So this Plastics Pact
actually makes it entirely possible

956
00:47:47,858 --> 00:47:51,608
that there'll be far more plastic
in our supermarkets, not less.

957
00:47:51,608 --> 00:47:54,327
You could very well say,
yup, I've met my target,

958
00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:56,298
2025, done and dusted,

959
00:47:56,298 --> 00:47:59,968
when, actually, the absolute amount
of plastic could double.

960
00:48:05,888 --> 00:48:09,968
One way for supermarkets to break
away from single-use plastic

961
00:48:09,968 --> 00:48:12,738
is to simply sell us goods
without packaging.

962
00:48:12,738 --> 00:48:17,298
Two months ago, Tesco told me
about their planned trial

963
00:48:17,298 --> 00:48:20,248
to encourage their customers
to buy loose fruit and veg

964
00:48:20,248 --> 00:48:21,888
rather than packaged.

965
00:48:21,888 --> 00:48:25,738
So now I've come along to one of
the two stores running the trial.

966
00:48:25,738 --> 00:48:28,138
I'm wondering whether I'll step
in there

967
00:48:28,138 --> 00:48:30,048
and see a completely
new type of Tesco.

968
00:48:30,048 --> 00:48:33,527
That's what I'm hoping to see.
Less plastic. A lot less plastic.

969
00:48:35,808 --> 00:48:40,098
I'm meeting up with group quality
director Sarah Bradbury.

970
00:48:40,098 --> 00:48:42,018
Hello, Sarah. Hello, how are you?

971
00:48:42,018 --> 00:48:44,327
I'm great.
Lovely to see you again!

972
00:48:44,327 --> 00:48:46,608
The attractive displays
of loose fruit and veg

973
00:48:46,608 --> 00:48:49,018
certainly look promising.

974
00:48:49,018 --> 00:48:53,457
At my last meeting with Sarah,
I pointed out that buying produce

975
00:48:53,457 --> 00:48:56,768
loose often costs more
than buying it packaged,

976
00:48:56,768 --> 00:48:59,938
and she promised me that this trial
would be different.

977
00:48:59,938 --> 00:49:02,457
The peppers here are 25p here

978
00:49:02,457 --> 00:49:07,577
and we've got 30p for the red
and for the orange ones as well.

979
00:49:07,577 --> 00:49:11,298
We've made sure they're absolutely
price competitive.

980
00:49:11,298 --> 00:49:13,808
Sarah's kept her word on price,

981
00:49:13,808 --> 00:49:18,577
but the trial hasn't increased
the choice if you want to buy loose.

982
00:49:18,577 --> 00:49:22,577
It's simply lowered the price
of 45 lines of fruit and veg

983
00:49:22,577 --> 00:49:27,498
that were already being sold loose,
and removed the packaged option.

984
00:49:27,498 --> 00:49:31,378
Hundreds of other lines
are STILL in their packaging.

985
00:49:33,768 --> 00:49:38,498
You've got one, two, three, four,

986
00:49:38,498 --> 00:49:42,527
five, six, seven,

987
00:49:42,527 --> 00:49:44,888
eight, nine, ten,

988
00:49:44,888 --> 00:49:50,378
11, 12. 12 different ranges of
tomatoes all in plastic

989
00:49:50,378 --> 00:49:54,378
and only two that are available
without. There's not a choice.

990
00:49:54,378 --> 00:49:56,808
There is a choice here -
there's absolutely a choice.

991
00:49:56,808 --> 00:49:59,688
I've got two loose tomatoes,
and 12 in plastic.

992
00:49:59,688 --> 00:50:01,168
That's not a choice.

993
00:50:01,168 --> 00:50:04,298
If a company like Tesco makes
a commitment to just get rid of

994
00:50:04,298 --> 00:50:06,298
as much plastic packaging
as possible,

995
00:50:06,298 --> 00:50:09,498
you will have made a huge
impact to the country as a whole.

996
00:50:09,498 --> 00:50:13,938
We would reduce our single plastic
use overnight if you could do that.

997
00:50:13,938 --> 00:50:16,168
So it is important that we do that.

998
00:50:16,168 --> 00:50:18,758
We've created a culture
around convenience

999
00:50:18,758 --> 00:50:21,688
and everybody is used to buying
in a certain way.

1000
00:50:21,688 --> 00:50:24,248
You're right.
We buy our tomatoes like this

1001
00:50:24,248 --> 00:50:27,138
because Tesco's is selling them
to me like this. Yep.

1002
00:50:27,138 --> 00:50:29,407
You're telling me
that this is convenient.

1003
00:50:29,407 --> 00:50:31,858
You're telling me that this is
going to be better

1004
00:50:31,858 --> 00:50:33,168
for my tomatoes at home.

1005
00:50:33,168 --> 00:50:36,218
You're dictating to us
how we should be buying.

1006
00:50:36,218 --> 00:50:39,447
How hard is it to just remove the
packaging from the chain?

1007
00:50:39,447 --> 00:50:42,688
Practically, we could do it tomorrow
if it was the right thing to do.

1008
00:50:42,688 --> 00:50:44,248
But we need to make sure that we've

1009
00:50:44,248 --> 00:50:47,327
brought the supply chain along with
us. I'm not going to forget that.

1010
00:50:47,327 --> 00:50:49,498
Practically, you could do
it tomorrow

1011
00:50:49,498 --> 00:50:51,858
if you thought
it was the right thing to do?

1012
00:50:51,858 --> 00:50:55,777
I had such high hopes for this
trial, but it just doesn't feel

1013
00:50:55,777 --> 00:51:00,138
like the dramatic change
in thinking that we need.

1014
00:51:00,138 --> 00:51:02,608
For a massive, powerful supermarket,

1015
00:51:02,608 --> 00:51:07,138
you created a culture of shopping,
you dictated to us how we shop.

1016
00:51:07,138 --> 00:51:11,168
Now I say to you - create another
culture. Change the landscape.

1017
00:51:11,168 --> 00:51:15,098
Be radical. Set the standards for
other supermarkets.

1018
00:51:15,098 --> 00:51:17,168
How about that?

1019
00:51:17,168 --> 00:51:21,858
A growing number of refill shops
around the country have introduced

1020
00:51:21,858 --> 00:51:24,968
a genuine alternative
to plastic-heavy shopping,

1021
00:51:24,968 --> 00:51:28,168
allowing us to fill our own bags
and containers

1022
00:51:28,168 --> 00:51:30,248
with un-packaged produce.

1023
00:51:30,248 --> 00:51:32,298
I think they're great,

1024
00:51:32,298 --> 00:51:35,098
but, to date, they've struggled
to match the supermarkets

1025
00:51:35,098 --> 00:51:37,447
for choice and affordability.

1026
00:51:37,447 --> 00:51:41,467
Catherine Conway is a consultant
on reducing packaging

1027
00:51:41,467 --> 00:51:45,158
and is designing ways to
scale up the refill approach

1028
00:51:45,158 --> 00:51:47,808
for our supermarket aisles.

1029
00:51:47,808 --> 00:51:51,138
Hi, Cath. Lovely to meet you.
How are you doing? Very well.

1030
00:51:51,138 --> 00:51:55,218
So if you're looking at your future
shopping crystal ball,

1031
00:51:55,218 --> 00:51:57,248
definitely not a plastic ball,

1032
00:51:57,248 --> 00:52:00,327
what does it look like,
five years, ten years from now?

1033
00:52:00,327 --> 00:52:02,938
How could and should we be shopping?

1034
00:52:02,938 --> 00:52:06,327
So I guess packaging is something
that enables the food to get

1035
00:52:06,327 --> 00:52:08,938
to your house,
enables you to use it,

1036
00:52:08,938 --> 00:52:11,327
and then it goes back into
the system to be reused

1037
00:52:11,327 --> 00:52:14,738
so it's just in a continual cycle
of being cleaned, reused, cleaned,

1038
00:52:14,738 --> 00:52:16,657
reused, round and round.

1039
00:52:16,657 --> 00:52:19,248
Which actually plays to
plastic's strength,

1040
00:52:19,248 --> 00:52:21,777
because it is really a durable
substance.

1041
00:52:21,777 --> 00:52:24,018
It's about the system,
not the material.

1042
00:52:24,018 --> 00:52:27,088
Imagine that you've got
this kind of Tupperware at home.

1043
00:52:27,088 --> 00:52:29,407
One option is, you go
into your store

1044
00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:31,138
and somebody refills
that for you.

1045
00:52:31,138 --> 00:52:34,327
The other one is, you walk
in and pick up a pre-filled piece

1046
00:52:34,327 --> 00:52:37,018
of reusable packaging
from the supermarket,

1047
00:52:37,018 --> 00:52:40,298
take it home, use the goods and then
you put it back into the system.

1048
00:52:40,298 --> 00:52:42,407
That's a big change
we're asking for.

1049
00:52:42,407 --> 00:52:45,298
But if you think, traditionally,
it's not that much of a change.

1050
00:52:45,298 --> 00:52:47,968
In some way, it's going back
to systems that we used to have,

1051
00:52:47,968 --> 00:52:50,498
where it was refillable
glass milk bottles - you know,

1052
00:52:50,498 --> 00:52:52,447
the way our parents used to shop,

1053
00:52:52,447 --> 00:52:54,657
and it's actually updating
those systems

1054
00:52:54,657 --> 00:52:57,048
in a more tech-savvy,
a more modern world.

1055
00:52:57,048 --> 00:52:59,048
It does sound like a brave new world

1056
00:52:59,048 --> 00:53:01,858
but not one in which there's zero
cost to the environment.

1057
00:53:01,858 --> 00:53:04,738
You need heat and cleaning products.
You're totally right.

1058
00:53:04,738 --> 00:53:08,138
But I firmly believe that if
it's done to the right scale

1059
00:53:08,138 --> 00:53:11,298
at the right efficiencies,
then the system has to be better

1060
00:53:11,298 --> 00:53:14,498
for the environment than
the single-use alternative.

1061
00:53:14,498 --> 00:53:18,248
After several years of trying
to engage supermarkets

1062
00:53:18,248 --> 00:53:21,327
Catherine is now advising
one of them

1063
00:53:21,327 --> 00:53:25,938
as it dips its toes into the world
of reusable packaging.

1064
00:53:25,938 --> 00:53:30,888
Waitrose are running a trial
at just one branch for 11 weeks.

1065
00:53:32,327 --> 00:53:35,298
They've intercepted parts
of their supply chain

1066
00:53:35,298 --> 00:53:38,378
before the plastic packaging
goes on,

1067
00:53:38,378 --> 00:53:41,498
to offer 160 lines of loose
fruit and veg

1068
00:53:41,498 --> 00:53:45,218
as well as refill stations
for dry-store goods,

1069
00:53:45,218 --> 00:53:50,298
frozen fruit, coffee
and even wine and beer.

1070
00:53:50,298 --> 00:53:52,688
You can bring your own containers
and bags

1071
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:55,688
or put down a deposit to
borrow theirs.

1072
00:53:58,378 --> 00:54:02,088
I love not feeling guilty every
time I buy fruit and veg any more.

1073
00:54:02,088 --> 00:54:05,218
Be even better if you could manage
to provide milk

1074
00:54:05,218 --> 00:54:08,608
in returnable glass bottles or a
milk refill station.

1075
00:54:08,608 --> 00:54:11,608
This is great. Hopefully more
stores will do the same.

1076
00:54:11,608 --> 00:54:13,498
Well, that's the crunch, isn't it?

1077
00:54:13,498 --> 00:54:15,577
More stores will follow.

1078
00:54:15,577 --> 00:54:19,577
I mean, there's only one Waitrose
doing this out of 360,

1079
00:54:19,577 --> 00:54:22,688
and thousands
of other supermarkets

1080
00:54:22,688 --> 00:54:25,378
not really embracing this approach
at all yet.

1081
00:54:25,378 --> 00:54:27,968
We're at the very, very beginning
of something.

1082
00:54:27,968 --> 00:54:31,018
Or are we?
Maybe it'll just peter out and die.

1083
00:54:31,018 --> 00:54:33,688
What I think is important
about what's happening here

1084
00:54:33,688 --> 00:54:36,248
is that they're showing
it is possible -

1085
00:54:36,248 --> 00:54:39,527
we can do our shopping
without all this plastic.

1086
00:54:39,527 --> 00:54:41,527
And if that's going to scale up,

1087
00:54:41,527 --> 00:54:44,168
if that's going to become
the new normal,

1088
00:54:44,168 --> 00:54:46,728
well, ultimately, it's going to
be down to us.

1089
00:54:49,968 --> 00:54:54,018
We know the scale of the plastic
problem we're facing.

1090
00:54:54,018 --> 00:54:57,527
Every single minute
of every single day

1091
00:54:57,527 --> 00:55:02,888
a truckload of plastics is finding
its way into the world's oceans.

1092
00:55:05,608 --> 00:55:10,888
And one street has shown us
that we CAN do things differently.

1093
00:55:10,888 --> 00:55:15,048
So that is a reduction of... 45%.

1094
00:55:15,048 --> 00:55:16,218
WQW!

1095
00:55:16,218 --> 00:55:20,346
But if we are going to bring
about the change our planet needs,

1096
00:55:20,370 --> 00:55:23,289
then we need to make ourselves
heard.

1097
00:55:23,289 --> 00:55:26,929
Our supermarkets are always telling
us that our opinions matter,

1098
00:55:26,929 --> 00:55:28,959
that they value our feedback.

1099
00:55:28,959 --> 00:55:31,039
So let's take them up on that.

1100
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,289
Let's start feeding
our plastic back.

1101
00:55:34,289 --> 00:55:37,079
I'm going to write
"enough is enough".

1102
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:40,129
These bananas are already
packaged by nature.

1103
00:55:40,129 --> 00:55:43,648
Every year we spend BILLIONS
in the big supermarkets.

1104
00:55:43,648 --> 00:55:45,799
So surely they'll listen!

1105
00:55:45,799 --> 00:55:49,039
I'll keep on buying but
only if you keep on trying

1106
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,719
to reduce my plastic packaging
to zero.

1107
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Cauliflower does not need
a plastic bag.

1108
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,929
If you're shopping in the next seven
clays, take those bits of plastic

1109
00:55:58,929 --> 00:56:01,849
that are really irritating
you and take them back

1110
00:56:01,849 --> 00:56:03,129
to the supermarket.

1111
00:56:03,129 --> 00:56:06,159
Write your message on the plastic
and hand it over.

1112
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:09,599
My little note is,
"Plastic isn't fantastic."

1113
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:14,438
Please stop wrapping my fruit
and vegetable in plastic.

1114
00:56:14,438 --> 00:56:17,039
Hashtag - #OurPlasticFeedback.

1115
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:18,799
Why don't you get involved too?

1116
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:21,079
Time to reduce.

1117
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:24,879
And don't forget to add the
hashtag...

1118
00:56:24,879 --> 00:56:27,039
Share it on social media.

1119
00:56:31,409 --> 00:56:33,679
And then feed it back.

1120
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,799
We're giving our plastic feedback!

1121
00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:38,438
Just here to give our
plastic feedback.

1122
00:56:38,438 --> 00:56:43,129
People across the country are
starting to tell their supermarkets

1123
00:56:43,129 --> 00:56:47,129
they no longer want their
single-use plastic.

1124
00:56:47,129 --> 00:56:51,999
They won't be very pleased, but
I think they'll understand.

1125
00:56:51,999 --> 00:56:54,599
Do it for us,
do it for our children,

1126
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,209
do it for our grandchildren.

1127
00:56:56,209 --> 00:56:59,129
Let's make
the change we need happen.

1128
00:56:59,129 --> 00:57:02,318
It looks like some people
have had enough.

1129
00:57:02,318 --> 00:57:05,289
It's time for a plastics revolution.

1130
00:57:05,289 --> 00:57:07,799
There's too much plastic
on our planet.

1131
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:11,438
<i>\</i> Hashtag... l

1132
00:57:11,438 --> 00:57:14,879
Let's tell the supermarkets
how we feel.

1133
00:57:14,879 --> 00:57:17,768
For the next seven clays,
let's give them...

1134
00:57:17,768 --> 00:57:20,929
ALL: ..our plastic feedback!

1135
00:57:25,518 --> 00:57:29,879
For the sake of the planet,

1136
00:57:29,879 --> 00:57:33,239
LESS plastic, please.

